Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

There is a difference between a disagreement and "you aint armenian because your scull measurements don't match to the standard armenian scull"

I agree. But, that is not even close to what I am refering to. I'm talking about debate/disagreements about where one stands on the course of Armenia's political evolution.
Sometimes unity is impossible. Take the LTP vs Sarkisian for example...

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

I agree. But, that is not even close to what I am refering to. I'm talking about debate/disagreements about where one stands on the course of Armenia's political evolution.
Sometimes unity is impossible. Take the LTP vs Sarkisian for example...

It is way different to call a nativearmenian "turk" etc because of political diagreements (hell I might have done it as well) since he wont take it seriously because he knows that he is armenian and that his armenian identity is not in danger. But when you do this against a diaspora armenians or even worse, against armenians who are mixed but still care about their country (more than many "real" armenians) it can be dangerous.

For example look at Nightowl. I disagree with almost everything that she wrote. But I have no doubt that she is telling the truth when she writes that some members of the armenian community treated her like an "outsider". This type of behavior doesn't serve us in the long term. We don't have the privilege to lose assets. This is why I am stressing this so much and I have done it other topics.

Unless we want to see more Nightowls, we should cut this stupid attitude.

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

And what is really making me mad is when I see some armenian "nationalists" telling who is armenian or not. A nationalist is supposed to serve his nation. These bigots don't realize that by dividing the armenians they are actually behaving like traitors.

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

...This type of behavior doesn't serve us in the long term. We don't have the privilege to lose assets. This is why I am stressing this so much and I have done it other topics.

Unless we want to see more Nightowls, we should cut this stupid attitude.

Again, when you paint in broad strokes, your assertion is valid. However, in realty, it is not that simple. In many respects the diaspora can be detrimental to the Armenian State. Look at the pro LTP rallies in Glendale a few months back...supporting a candidate who (by every national and international standard) LOST the election. This sour grapes behavior can only serve to weaken the Armenian nation.

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

"Armenian-ism" should be measured on how beneficial you are to your own people.

You are worthless if your own ideas and ways divide your people/community.

Considering that the intellectual/cultural level of this forum has drastically degraded since the skinheads have invaded and infested the forum, I think that we have a relatively acceptable estimate of how "beneficial" they may be to the Armenian Nation; briefly said, they may be as beneficial as a gang infesting a community.

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

This comment is all well and good in a utopian sense, but in reality it is just feel good speech that is detached from the reality that Armenians have always been and always will be, divided...just like every other nation, btw.

There's a difference between a "divided" community because of its diversity - in opinion, sensitivities, choices etc. - and a segregationist mentality and ostracism - that characterizes you, skinheads.
In any case, I find it amusing to see you label TXMENIAN's comment as "utopian," considering your wet dreams of "theocratic monarchy." For instance, check this thread http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=10028 with voodoo, obscurantist flavors

In short I find your statement naive because it implies that Armenians should not discriminate among other Armenians whom they disagree with - especially on issues of great importance - such as the maintenence of a viable Armenian nation-state.

In the best case scenario, skinheads such as you, will prove to be worthless to the "maintenence of a viable Armenian nation-state;" fortunately, emotionally unstable megalomaniacs constitute a negligible minority to have any meaningful/noticeable influence on the policies and destiny of the Armenian Nation.

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Considering that the intellectual/cultural level of this forum has drastically degraded since the skinheads have invaded and infested the forum, I think that we have a relatively acceptable estimate of how "beneficial" they may be to the Armenian Nation; briefly said, they may be as beneficial as a gang infesting a community.

By your very divisive statement, you are one of those "worthless" Armenians TXMENIAN is referring to. I concur.

Btw, why do you find it necessary to work in the word "intellectual" and "skinhead" in just about every one of your posts? Either you have torretes or just a limited vocabulary...or maybe you are just a f'ing clown..yeah that's it.

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

There's a difference between a "divided" community because of its diversity - in opinion, sensitivities, choices etc. - and a segregationist mentality and ostracism - that characterizes you, skinheads.
In any case, I find it amusing to see you label TXMENIAN's comment as "utopian," considering your wet dreams of "theocratic monarchy." For instance, check this thread http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=10028 with voodoo, obscurantist flavors






In the best case scenario, skinheads such as you, will prove to be worthless to the "maintenence of a viable Armenian nation-state;" fortunately, emotionally unstable megalomaniacs constitute a negligible minority to have any meaningful/noticeable influence on the policies and destiny of the Armenian Nation.

Again! You are out of your mind!

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Considering that the intellectual/cultural level of this forum has drastically degraded since the skinheads have invaded and infested the forum, I think that we have a relatively acceptable estimate of how "beneficial" they may be to the Armenian Nation; briefly said, they may be as beneficial as a gang infesting a community.

By your very divisive statement, you are one of those "worthless" Armenians TXMENIAN is referring to. I concur.

So our "genius???" can't even tell the difference between:
1- Stating the fact that the intellectual/cultural level of this forum drastically degraded since you, skinheads, joined
2- A segregationist mentality/views, like yours, that is expressed as an ostracism against anybody who does not share your wet dreams of theocratic monarchy, dictatorship, militarism etc. etc.?

Too subtle for you????

Btw, why do you find it necessary to work in the word "intellectual" and "skinhead" in just about every one of your posts?

When I'm addressing - or referring to - a skinhead, I use the word "skinhead;" shouldn't I call a cat a cat???
Too subtle/puzzling for an intellectual midget???

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

So our "genius???" can't even tell the difference between:
1- Stating the fact that the intellectual/cultural level of this forum drastically degraded since you, skinheads, joined
2- A segregationist mentality/views, like yours, that is expressed as an ostracism against anybody who does not share your wet dreams of theocratic monarchy, dictatorship, militarism etc. etc.?

Too subtle for you????




When I'm addressing - or referring to - a skinhead, I use the word "skinhead;" shouldn't I call a cat a cat???
Too subtle/puzzling for an intellectual midget???

Unlike you, I am not a self-proclaimed "intellectual". Be that as it may, if you want to call me a "intellectual midget", that is fine by me...some midgets are taller than others and you are the shortest (and most mentural) midget in the forum.

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