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  • #21
    Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

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    • #22
      Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

      Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
      Well then, how do address the fact that there are denialists of the Armenian genocide to begin with?
      LOL I was not expecting that one from you. You are on very dangerous ground. One may suggest that if there are people (if you can call turks people) who deny the genocide than maybe it is not a historical fact... Be careful in your demagogy..... Who denies the genocide and why is snow clear for every thinking human being: it is the same reason why any criminal denies his crime.
      Last edited by Mukuch; 08-14-2009, 11:38 AM.
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      • #23
        Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

        Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
        By law yes, by modern geopolitics, this is a fantasy. Nonetheless, we can discuss the Wilsonian boundaries of Armenia. I just want to stress that such ideas, not backed by the shaping hand of a victorious military/militia force, lands on deaf ears of today's international community.
        The Wilsonian boundaries are excessive, truly unrealistic. If I'm not mistaken they include access to the Mediterranean. That would be stepping on a lot of feet. It's more realistic to get Ararat, the ruined city of Ani, and certain other historical cities in that area because, for the most part, that area is undeveloped and unoccupied.
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        • #24
          Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

          Originally posted by Stark Evade View Post
          The Wilsonian boundaries are excessive, truly unrealistic. If I'm not mistaken they include access to the Mediterranean. That would be stepping on a lot of feet. It's more realistic to get Ararat, the ruined city of Ani, and certain other historical cities in that area because, for the most part, that area is undeveloped and unoccupied.
          Actually, it's the Black sea and not the Mediterranean.

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          • #25
            Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

            Originally posted by Stark Evade View Post
            The Wilsonian boundaries are excessive, truly unrealistic. If I'm not mistaken they include access to the Mediterranean. That would be stepping on a lot of feet. It's more realistic to get Ararat, the ruined city of Ani, and certain other historical cities in that area because, for the most part, that area is undeveloped and unoccupied.
            If you will be able get Ani from turks than you will be able to get all Western Armenia. Both are equally posible (or inposible).
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            • #26
              Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

              Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
              I think first we must define the issues 'at hand' before we start posting articles. There are 3 main issues as I see it.

              1) The Right to Self-Determination of the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh

              Wasn't there a document written about the Karabakh issue by two non-Armenians a little while ago? It was 30 page (approx.) analysis mostly favoring the Armenian position. It may be a good source in itself. I've actually wanted to find that again. I had printed it at the time it was written but lost what I had printed.
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              • #27
                Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                Actually, it's the Black sea and not the Mediterranean.
                Ah, I see. Ok. That would make it more possible but it may be in the Armenians' best interest to keep it as simple as possible. Unless the reasons for getting that much land are very reasonable and compelling.
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                • #28
                  Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

                  Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
                  If you will be able get Ani from turks than you will be able to get all Western Armenia. Both are equally posible (or inposible).
                  You may be right. I don't know enough about it.
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                  • #29
                    Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

                    Originally posted by Stark Evade View Post
                    Wasn't there a document written about the Karabakh issue by two non-Armenians a little while ago? It was 30 page (approx.) analysis mostly favoring the Armenian position. It may be a good source in itself. I've actually wanted to find that again. I had printed it at the time it was written but lost what I had printed.
                    Do you have any more info on this 30 page document? Who are the two non-Armenians who wrote it?
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                    • #30
                      Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

                      Originally posted by Stark Evade View Post
                      Ah, I see. Ok. That would make it more possible but it may be in the Armenians' best interest to keep it as simple as possible. Unless the reasons for getting that much land are very reasonable and compelling.
                      An access to the sea would be in Armenia's best interest because that would finally liberate it from the possibility of being blockaded by its neighbours in addition to it being a great economic asset in itself. The problem is that there are a total of about 5-6 million people currently living in Wilsonian designated Western Armenia. The majority of them are Kurds. But yeah, that part of Turkey is vastly underdeveloped especially if you compare it to the Istanbul area.
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