Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

[Pazooki]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

These two are totally different things. I am not armenian so I will not fight for armenian cause..

But? I'm confused either your really stupid or you just can't say anything because you don't like to be proved wrong.

Just frickin admit the Genocide happened, wait your not going to. You know why? Because your a Turk, and Turks hate to be accused and proved wrong by Armenians.

[Federate]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

These two are totally different things. I am not armenian so I will not fight for armenian cause..

Being Armenian has nothing to do with demanding basic justice.

When You went Turkish forums, It would be you who is challange established history. You know, History is a changable acording to nations or people..

No, quite frankly I would be informing you of what the rest of the world calls history.

Realy? You talk turks who want to talk you(Minority) and most probably halfly believed genocide thing.

Yes, I agree, most act (are?) dumb but even if I get a few people to listen, I will know that I have done something.

[Palavra]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

What about Ararat? Doesn't sound hard to pronounce. Or just because of the fact that you don't wan't to call it by it's original name

Hmm I can't pronounce "Turkey" so I guess I'll just call it Sh!t

I am realy curious If Turks did call it as ararat. It is called as agrı.(Maybe Turks distorted ararat word) and You should not call Turkey. In Turkish langauge, It is Turkiye. I am sure You armenians have their own word for Turkey.

By the way, Agrı means pain in Turkish.

But? I'm confused either your really stupid or you just can't say anything because you don't like to be proved wrong.

Just frickin admit the Genocide happened, wait your not going to. You know why? Because your a Turk, and Turks hate to be accused and proved wrong by Armenians.

Are you realy moron? I already said genocide happened. It looks like people like you have not long term memory.

Being Armenian has nothing to do with demanding basic justice.

That is true. That is why I dont believe Armenians are following or care about justice.

No, quite frankly I would be informing you of what the rest of the world calls history.

Bla bla. Do rest of world know, armenians tried to kill patisah of ottomans? Most probably not or what they did at erzurum?

[jgk3]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

Being Armenian has nothing to do with demanding basic justice.

Yes it does. Justice can only exist in the context of one group of people paying for what they perpetrated against the other. In reality, it just shows who has the power to punish who. There is no such thing as universal justice because life isn't fair. You have to win your justice. Turks did something, Armenians need to win their justice. We've put up a good fight, lets continue until we win.

Along the way, from our own seeking of justice, we step on the toes of the opposition. Then they demand justice too because we're showing balls. You see... universal justice cannot work. Again, you have to win it.

Those Circassians in TomServo's thread for example can never have justice because they've been utterly decimated in their homeland. They have no power.

If you seek peace, that's another story. You see, the Russians won peace against the Circassians by annihilating them. The other approach to peace is to put the past behind, which can be a hard thing to do if you've witnessed the deaths of your family at the hands of your adversary. Many Tibetan exiles however were able to achieve this for their personal lives, moving on from the horrors they endured against China. So in the end, you can either pick to fight your way to peace, or to forgive your way to peace. It's your choice. I think both ways are noble, until you start trying to mix the two.

[SoyElTurco]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

Just frickin admit the Genocide happened, wait your not going to. You know why? Because your a Turk, and Turks hate to be accused and proved wrong by Armenians.

Something did happen, but I refer to it as the "Armenian Incident" or "The Catastrophe of the Armenians" or "The Tragedy of the Armenians."

[jgk3]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

Something did happen, but I refer to it as the "Armenian Incident" or "The Catastrophe of the Armenians" or "The Tragedy of the Armenians."

It's not like it was some storm that suddenly came out of nowhere and ravaged us, disappeared, with no one to blame but the atmosphere. There is a state that directly and deliberately benefited out of this "Incident/Catastrohpe/Tragedy". Undo this deliberate benefit. Then you can call it an incident/catastrophe/tragedy.

[Pazooki]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

Are you realy moron? I already said genocide happened. It looks like people like you have not long term memory.

A few posts ago you were denying it!! LOL!!! OMG YOUR THE STUPIDEST PERSON I'VE EVER MET. MAKE UP YOUR MIND DAMNIT!!!!

[Palavra]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

My friend, I did not deny it. I just said, I will not support your AG campaign. It is two different thing.

[Pazooki]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

My friend, I did not deny it. I just said, I will not support your AG campaign. It is two different thing.

There is no point in trying to prove anything to you.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Abdullah Gul: Armenian?

Did you hear that? That crumbling sound was the Turkish democracy caving in on itself.

Turkey probes criminal charges re: online petition promoting recognition of the Armenian genocide as an "insult to Turkishness" under Penal Code section 301.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7821159.stm

http://www.easybourse.com/bourse-actualite/marches/turkish-prosecutor-probes-campaign-of-apology-to-armenians-593798

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/35709

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Turkey+investigates+group+Armenian+apology/1159025/story.html

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10744410.asp?gid=244

What happened Abdullah, I thought the online petition was a demonstration of Turkey's maturation and blossoming democracy. Doh!!!