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  • jgk3
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    I guess the obvious question is are Today's Armenians in Armenia direct descendants of semitic origins or not? what about Artsakh and Javakh?
    If not, then you have your answer....
    (And plz moderator, close this thread before it becomes another white-supremest stormfront wet dream....)
    What are you so worried about arakeretzig? How could this possibly become a stormfront wet dream? Many of us here don't even buy into the "white" vs. "non-white" crap. Unfortunately, our arguments are casually ignored by DennisTheMen, who as a result, is appearing more and more 1 dimensional by not engaging points of view that contradict his agenda... and that one dimension is called: troll. I suppose it speaks volumes about what stormfront does to people who buy into and defend its premises of white-supremacy and "white nationalism", they all become trolls who speak the same language, and thus don't realize they are trolls.
    Last edited by jgk3; 09-12-2010, 03:52 PM.

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  • retro
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    I guess the obvious question is are Today's Armenians in Armenia direct descendants of semitic origins or not? what about Artsakh and Javakh?
    If not, then you have your answer....
    (And plz moderator, close this thread before it becomes another white-supremest stormfront wet dream....)
    Sadly Anthropology like history is highly politicized by idiots.

    Whilst Northern Europeans are more removed. The vast majority of European and Near Eastern people are actually quite closely related and the Armenian Plateau was likely very ethnically mixed even in very ancient times. Indo-European and Anatolian, languages are of Indo-Hittite origin and Semitic peoples likely branched from indigenous Europeans in Asia Minor.

    It's also worth noting that Iberia is also very a important cultural bridge and that Northern Africa was kind of Afro-Asiatic, silk road linking the Near East and Europe.

    Since the spread of Indo-European/Iranic languages mirrors that of the silk road. With Turkic traversing back along it from Asia.


    Occurences of Indo-European languages and steppe cultures in Central Asia

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  • Mos
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by DennisTheMen View Post
    Mos, saying you are proud that you weren't born a Black or a Arab is one of the most pathetic peice of crap thing I have seen someone say...

    HELLO Mr. Genius.... a lot of Armenians look Arab.... and Semitic as well..

    J haplogroup in the Armenian population is 20-25% which is prodominately Arab.
    Armenians have a general Mediterranean/Caucasian look, and no J haplogroup is not predominate in Armenians, it's the R1a. Compared to other ethnic groups Armenians haven't mixed that much. Mostly they've mixed with the people living around them including Georgians and various Anatolian people. In the present day, there's a lot of mixture with Russian people, everywhere I go I see that one of the family members is Russian.

    Oh and your a Turk so I wouldn't be talking if I was you, being Muslims Turks have mixed much more with arabs, and other similar muslim ethnic groups. If Turks were really white, than I think Europe wouldn't hate Turks that much. In Europe, Turks are portrayed the same way Arabs are portrayed they are all put in one group.

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  • arakeretzig
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    I guess the obvious question is are Today's Armenians in Armenia direct descendants of semitic origins or not? what about Artsakh and Javakh?
    If not, then you have your answer....
    (And plz moderator, close this thread before it becomes another white-supremest stormfront wet dream....)
    Last edited by arakeretzig; 09-12-2010, 12:25 PM.

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  • retro
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by DennisTheMen View Post
    Mos, saying you are proud that you weren't born a Black or a Arab is one of the most pathetic peice of crap thing I have seen someone say...

    HELLO Mr. Genius.... a lot of Armenians look Arab.... and Semitic as well..

    J haplogroup in the Armenian population is 20-25% which is prodominately Arab.

    Anatolian-Graeco-Armenian cultures are some what removed from Iranic and the region has long been a mixture of various Indo-European and Western Semtic elements.

    J2 is from and is common in the Mediterranean, North Africa, Mesopotamia and Levant. J1 on the other hand evolved in the Arabian Peninsula.

    Haplogroup IJ

    It is notable that no example of a Haplogroup IJ* Y-chromosome has been found among any modern human population; the existence of the Haplogroup IJ node has been inferred from the fact that certain mutations are shared in common among all Y-chromosomes belonging to the descendant haplogroups I and J. The lack of any examples of Haplogroup IJ* belonging to neither Haplogroup I nor Haplogroup J complicates any attempt to deduce the geographical location where Haplogroup IJ first appeared; however, the fact that both Haplogroup I and Haplogroup J are found among modern populations of the Caucasus, Anatolia, and Southwest Asia tends to support the hypothesis that Haplogroup IJ derived from Haplogroup IJK in the vicinity of West Asia or the Middle East and subsequently spread throughout Western Eurasia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_IJ_%28Y-DNA%29

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  • retro
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
    I would also like to add that haplogroup genes do not necessarily translate into neatly definable physical appearances, a key point being the difference in appearance between these berbers you bring up, and Finns..
    I agree, race is a regional climatic adaptation and the result of the integration of more modern peoples with pre-excisting races.

    Whilst North Africa has been subject to Arabization/Africanisation. The Amazighs/Berbers are descended from a Eurasian people and they are not Semtic.

    Intriguing aren't they!
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  • DennisTheMen
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Mos, saying you are proud that you weren't born a Black or a Arab is one of the most pathetic peice of crap thing I have seen someone say...

    HELLO Mr. Genius.... a lot of Armenians look Arab.... and Semitic as well..

    J haplogroup in the Armenian population is 20-25% which is prodominately Arab.

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  • Azar
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    I wouldn't be talking you turkish mongoloid muslim.

    If you people were really white than Europe wouldn't hate you as much. In Europe, calling someone a Turk is an insult that's how bad it is Everybody wants Turks out of Europe because you guys are so incompatible with Europeans and European values. So before making comments about Armenians, go see the sad state of your own race..
    You realize Russian Neo-Nazis have killed Armenians in the past?

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  • Mos
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by DennisTheMen View Post
    What is the Y-DNA genetics on the Armenian population? that is the only way to find out what Armenians are...

    Cause a lot of Armenians look like Turko-Mongols....
    I wouldn't be talking you turkish mongoloid muslim.

    If you people were really white than Europe wouldn't hate you as much. In Europe, calling someone a Turk is an insult that's how bad it is Everybody wants Turks out of Europe because you guys are so incompatible with Europeans and European values. So before making comments about Armenians, go see the sad state of your own race..

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  • Azar
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    Re: Are Armenians white????

    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    I'm just stating the facts. But to tell you the truth, I am happy I wasn't born a black or an arab....
    That's understandable as darker skinned people such as Southern/Gulf Arabs and people of Black African descent are usually discriminated against and targeted by racists.

    I would not want to be Black or Arab either, as it would be a hard life and I would face alot of prejudice.

    The following is a picture of someone who is both Black and Arab:

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