Are Armenians white????

[Persopolis]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Yeah but very few pure Persians exis

Says who? I just had run and check in the mirror. Thank God, I exist; thank God I'm Persian. Thank God Persians exist and are helping the viability of the Armenian state -- what was before, will be again. And most Iranian-Azeris are Persian (some are Turkic - but in a fake state known as the Republic of Azerbaijan they have been highly Turkified.)



Up to the 19th Century, when Armenia was a respected part of the greater Persian Empire, Armenia's lands were 3 times in size, The Persians prevented countless attempted massacres of Armenians (the Genocide was post Persian-Armenia).

George A. Bournoutian (25 September 1943, Isfahan) is a Senior Professor of History at Iona College. He is the author of numerous books on Armenian history and currently the Visiting Professor of Armenian History at Columbia: “Prior to the third century A.D., Iran had more influence on Armenia's culture than any of its other neighbours [i.e., for thousands of years the Perso-Armeno people were linked]. Intermarriage among the Iranian and Armenian nobility was common. The two peoples shared many religious, political, and linguistic elements and traditions and, at one time, even shared the same dynasty."


To Understand what happened to Armenia & the Republic of Azerbaijan - you have to study a phenomenon called "Turkification" or "Pan-Turkism." Real Iranian-Azaris (NOT the people from Azerbaijan) are of Persian stock. You will notice that Kasravi (a pure Persian-Azari) looks NOTHING like Ilham Aliyev, the leader of the Republic of Azerbaijan.

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians white????

I've moved posts discussing Armenians and their relationship to Indo-European to this thread: http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....Armenian/page6

[Nare]

Re: Are Armenians white????

who told you that armenians came from india? armenians came to caucasus from anatolia when urartu fell. urartu was the strongest kingdom in caucasus, but they were caucasians and not indo-europeans.in urartu lives many tribes and on of them was georgian but most of them were northcaucasians tribe such as waynakhs and som daghestnians. now about javakheti. javakheti is hisorical part of meskhetia and when meskhs lived there by that time armenians lived in anatolia

What I said was Georgians are making anti-Armenian propaganda on all forums claiming we came from India. And quit anti-Javakhk propaganda as well

[diaukhi]

Re: Are Armenians white????

This question is being discussed on every single forum, on every single YT video and majority of Armenians are not even aware of their own genetics...I hope my posts sorted out some questions first of all for Armenians themselves.

And no need to pretend we as Armenians are above all these discussions. We are under huge anti-Armenian propaganda which denies our history, our culture, our genetics. denying genetics is a part of the same propaganda. Why do you think Georgian and Azeri propaganda machine claims we are not natives to the land ( but from India lol)? Because if we are not natives then we are denied the rights on our Artsakh and our Javakhk...

who told you that armenians came from india? armenians came to caucasus from anatolia when urartu fell. urartu was the strongest kingdom in caucasus, but they were caucasians and not indo-europeans.in urartu lives many tribes and on of them was georgian but most of them were northcaucasians tribe such as waynakhs and som daghestnians. now about javakheti. javakheti is hisorical part of meskhetia and when meskhs lived there by that time armenians lived in anatolia

[Nare]

Re: Are Armenians white????

I thought Georgians were the laziest people lol

[retro]

Re: Are Armenians white????

There is lots of anti-Armenian propaganda going on ...

The only truth is our main gene is European and in our overwhelming majority we look like Southern Europeans...
Armenians ARE white...and just like any Southern European nation we have small non white minority who are genetically not Armenians...

Even those Armenians who come from ME eventually get close not to Arabs but Europeans in other countries...

“The Armenians in Argentina are ethnic Armenians who live in Argentina. In South America the largest population of Armenians is in Argentina where some 130,000 Armenians live . The core of the population came from Cilicia, Syria and Lebanon. In Buenos Aires, the Armenian community is known to share their common culture with the Basque community through musical events and cultural activities”

It's intresting that their are so many Armenians in Argentina. Spaniards on the whole they are very nice people. Even if they are lazy!

[Nare]

Re: Are Armenians white????

There is lots of anti-Armenian propaganda going on ...

The only truth is our main gene is European and in our overwhelming majority we look like Southern Europeans...
Armenians ARE white...and just like any Southern European nation we have small non white minority who are genetically not Armenians...

Even those Armenians who come from ME eventually get close not to Arabs but Europeans in other countries...

“The Armenians in Argentina are ethnic Armenians who live in Argentina. In South America the largest population of Armenians is in Argentina where some 130,000 Armenians live . The core of the population came from Cilicia, Syria and Lebanon. In Buenos Aires, the Armenian community is known to share their common culture with the Basque community through musical events and cultural activities”

[Armanen]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Linguistics is in your field of study jg, why don't you provide us with what you have concluded, or at least have come across?

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians white????

I think you did the same thing once or twice

Does that strip me of the right to engage in criticism? For that enterprise is an easy one, as you might have noticed when challenging other peoples' statements with unrelenting frequency. Posting undeniable facts to critics is a much more tedious enterprise of which not many of us here seem intent on doing when we make our statements. Instead, we mostly criticize one another wherever we feel it is necessary.

Which judge and jury decides what evidence successfully supports the case?

Good question. I guess it's all relative to what methodology the community believes will yield scientifically plausible results, and whether they believe the evidence was found in a way that is consistent with their methodology. For example, when someone claims Armenian and Celtic form a sub-group in Indo-European, they are essentially claiming that they share a common ancestor more recently spoken than proto-Indo-European that excludes any of the other daughter branches of Indo-European, such as Greek, Indo-Iranian, etc... If the method for finding such evidence is able to prove that Armenian and Celtic share the precise sort of features which suggest they form a sub-group within Indo-European, it must also demonstrate that Armenian can't form a sub-group with any of the other daughters. Otherwise it just emphasizes what the author believes to be close similarities between two languages as "proof" for sub-grouping them.

So to reiterate, two things are required to identify a sub-group within a language family:
1. A reliable theory for which set of grammatical features shared between two or more languages suggest that they form a sub-group.
2. A demonstration that the same theory applied for testing sub-group membership with other daughter branches, fails.

[Federate]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Small Penis -Not Present
Flat Face - Not Present
Small Nose with no bridge - Not Present
Virtually Hairless Body - Not Present
Drooping Down Eyes - Not Present
Round head- Not Present

We seem to have a lot in common except my hair is lighter coloured than most Armenians.