Re: Are Armenians white????
Azar:
You don’t know who the Persians are, let alone us Armenians so I suggest that you no longer make foolish posts because you have zero credibility after all your BS posts. Go figure out who the Azaries are before you open your mouth with your delusions about us Armenians. Persians will laugh at you if you told them some of things you said here….what you think we are that naïve that we would buy your silly crap. Some people have the nerve I swear.
Retro:
You might think you are a Turk but believe me, people like hrai and I know who we are and no misinformation can change that reality. We are white, we are Armenians, and most of us are not Turkified. Turks are our mortal enemy and they have brought this upon themselves and it will not end well for them.
There is a Persian saying that you must wear what you sow…at least Azeri and Turks should wear it like a man but they have no honor.
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Guest repliedRe: Are Armenians white????
Mos, yes vstah em et eshi tgha Azar@ ekela ste vor mez vra inch vor dzev azdi. Yes 100% vstah em ete menk hayeren sksenk stegh khosal et bolor trqi tsnundner@ mi jamank heto klqen mez.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by Eddo211 View PostTypologically (division of culture by races) has nothing to do with cultures/languages........and why you assume that it wasn’t the Armenians who influenced them instead of the other way around?.....never mind.
When we say hetch/hitch instead of votch inch to say 'nothing'
Well, it becomes clear how bilingual Armenians had become under the Ottoman yoke, to the point where the only instance of hearing "yete" or "votch inch" could've been in church, if you were lucky enough to have a well educated priest.
I'm sure Turkish also received several loanwords based from an Armenian source too, I'd like to look at studies on this, and perhaps learn other Turkic languages, including their ancient ones, to have some kind of built in standard in myself that can raise a red flag on the non-european, non-arabic and non-iranian borrowings in their language.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by ara87 View PostIt doesn't matter if Armenians are white or not though. People shouldn't think about race in genetic terms, but rather think about it as what nationality you are.
With the exception of remote aboriginal peoples. The vast majority of modern Eurasian peoples are descended from early populations centres in India, Southwest Asia the Middle East or Eastern Africa. Indeed, even the Asians aren't originally from SE Asia and for the most part they emerged in Eastern Central and Southern Asia.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by Eddo211 View PostTypologically (division of culture by races) has nothing to do with cultures/languages........and why you assume that it wasn’t the Armenians who influenced them instead of the other way around?.....never mind.
Linguistic typology is a subfield of linguistics that studies and classifies languages according to their structural features. Its aim is to describe and explain the common properties and the structural diversity of the world's languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_typologyLast edited by retro; 09-15-2010, 04:49 AM.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by Eddo211 View PostTypologically (division of culture by races) has nothing to do with cultures/languages........and why you assume that it wasn’t the Armenians who influenced them instead of the other way around?.....never mind.
This about sums it up and this is why we call ourselves the Armenians.........nough said.
Armenian is as Armenian is. turc is turc.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by retro View Post2700 BCE
While ancient Armenian was similar to ancient Greek, modern Armenian is typologically closer to Turkish. Armenian language and culture having being greatly influenced by both cultures during different periods.
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Originally posted by ara87Armenian's aren't white, but we aren't not white either (and yes grammar nerds, i do realize I just used a double negative)...
It doesn't matter if Armenians are white or not though. People shouldn't think about race in genetic terms, but rather think about it as what nationality you are.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Armenian's aren't white, but we aren't not white either (and yes grammar nerds, i do realize I just used a double negative)
I don't count myself as white, and in my immediate family I would only say my mother and brother were, though my dad and sister who are lighter than me count themselves as white to.
Throughout my entire extended family that I know of (only counting the 100% armos) I would say about the percentage of white is around 65-70%. Though, when I say white I don't mean like blond hair blue eyed skin as white as snow.
I just mean white skin tone, and generally brown hair, with lighter brown eyes. Though their are some red heads, and some with blue or hazel eyes.
It doesn't matter if Armenians are white or not though. People shouldn't think about race in genetic terms, but rather think about it as what nationality you are.
E.G. A white person from France is not the same as a white Person from Norway. A black person from Angola is not the same as a black person from Cameroon, or the USA. An Asian from China is not the same as someone from Korea or JapanLast edited by ara87; 09-14-2010, 10:44 PM.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
The Hurrians spoke an ergative-agglutinative language, conventionally called Hurrian, unrelated to neighboring Semitic or Indo-European languages, but clearly related to Urartian — a language spoken about a millennium later in northeastern Anatolia and Armenian mountains — and perhaps, distantly, to the present-day Northeast Caucasian languages. As such they are generally placed within the Hurro-Urartian group of languages. Some scholars relate the Hurrian language also to Georgian and its associated South Caucasian or Kartvelian languages. Similarities to Hurrian words have also been found in neighboring languages such as Armenian. It is believed by some scholars that the Hurrians arrived in the Caucasus around 2700 BCE.
Hurro-Urartian seemingly have links with ancient Caucasian/Mesopotamian languages and peoples. That predates the Armenians adoption of a Indo-European.
While ancient Armenian was similar to ancient Greek, modern Armenian is typologically closer to Turkish. Armenian language and culture having being greatly influenced by both cultures during different periods.
Which this tells us nothing of the origins of Indo-European Proto-Armenian. However since R1b is closely associated with Indo-European expansion. It's reasonable to assume that the Armen's where some kind of nomadic Iranic tribal group.
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Re: Are Armenians white????
Originally posted by Azar View PostI think we can end this thread by saying:
Armenians, Iranians and Azerbaijanis, are a non-white people, with a small white minority.
That's pretty much, the truth after all.
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