Are Armenians white????

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians white????

well, I just looked at the wikipedia articles for Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid. The descriptions of their phenotypes are listed near the end of the respective pages (except Caucasoid, who's description is not included on wikipedia it seems). There's a lot of criticism about the usage of these terms and their basis for differentiating populations of mankind, as genetics does not seem to support it, nor do the fact that as Anonymouse puts it, "Differences are in degrees, not in kinds". In reality, you find overlap in the distribution of traits that apparently belong to these arbitrary racial categories in a given group.

Defenders of this kind of rigid basis for racial differentiation find the easy way out by just saying "well... Caucasoids and Mongoloids mixed there". Anyway, I don't know exactly how scientific it all is (afterall, genetic ancestry does not seem to correlate neatly with human phenotypes), but what I do know is that facial recognition is important to us humans, and that these classifications of phenotypes are intuitive for many of us, and so they will continue to be used by mankind as a basis for differentiation or recognition between groups of people.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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Please do, I don't mind the classifications at all, just find them amusing, I think everyone can agree over the years anthropology has seen some pretty stupid things and alot of it needs a good slap

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Dolichocephaly and Brachycephaly occur in all of the 3 major anthropological categories for humans. The criterion for this differentiation is not based on that. If I find a neat list that tells the actual visible (physical) distinctions involved, I'll post it here.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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No I see your point, but Dolichocephalic is the reverse of Brachycephalic, Black hair the reverse of Blond hair, High cheekbones the reverse of low, etc.

How can people claim someone with opposing features is similar, that is unscientific, whimsical not to mention illogical

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Caucasoid today just means not Mongoloid or Negroid. It's a very broad category and it even includes populations from India with dark, negro-like skin, because as you've stated, it's based on cranial (and the body in general) anthropology, not on the exterior complexion of the object of analysis.

In any case, people aren't happy with this sort of division and feel the need to probe further. Afterall, what happens when you have a mulatto? You need an extra category to put him in. What happens when you want to differentiate a Caucasoid from India and one from Europe? You need to make sub-categories.

etc... etc... thus categories are made for the needs of different institutions, "parsing" peoples' backgrounds based on criteria viewed to be relevant.

I wouldn't get very hung up about it, it's just a natural social phenomenon and it has existed since the dawn of man, he has always needed to make these boundaries and categorizations that accurately reference a well defined exogamic or exogenous community. Accept it and move on.

[iFemale]

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I don't know about you guys, but I can spot an Armenian a mile away.
Then again, maybe it's just my supernatural powers.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Are Armenians white????

White is relative term, the Irish were not seen as white till the early 1900s even though they are pallid and most definitely European, regardless America refused to see them as white, instead as pale Negros (I xxxx you not)

The original racial anthropological schmucks defined Caucasians and Caucasoids of havng "Blond hair, Blue eyes and a rosy complexion", this is the reverse of the natives of the Caucasus and for that matter many Europeans (Italians, Spaniards, Polish, Irish, etc.)

What do we define as Caucasoid, thats my question :

Is the blond haired, blue eyed, prominent chinned dolichocephalic German similar to the Black haired, brown eyes, non prominent chinned brachycephalic Iranian, by definition yes, but with cranial anthropology it does not seem similar

[One-Way]

Re: Are Armenians white????

I'm only "White" when it comes to university applications. If they're pushing quotas, I need in anyway I can.

[Mos]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Listen to what Serzh says about Armenians being European.

http://www.euronews.net/2008/11/10/sargsyan-armenia-joining-nato-is-not-on-the-agenda/

[THQ]

Re: Are Armenians white????

Why is it so important being "white". Creating and seeking for evidence that you (whoever you are, Armenian, Georgian, Kurd etc) are white is pure racism.

White, Yellow, Black, Red... all are bullxxxx. Even Japans claim they are white.

White races do not exist. It was invented for the sake of legalisation of the colonial imperialism.