AG Movie Scripts

[Moogey]

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Any film, whether it's about a world war or genocide, has potential to succeed regardless of "who knows about the events." It doesn't really matter whether there's an audience. If it's a good film, it's a good film. How many films are there about the Holocaust and World War II? Why does Schindler's List stand out from these lists?

Schindler's List was written by an Armenian though.
Check the link:
http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.ph...teven_Zaillian

I shouldn't say this, because I have not seen it, but from what I've heard, "Schindler's List" stands out because it was about a German saving xxxish people. I have already mentioned that it would be good for someone to write a novel or make a film about Papa Kunzler, about any European who worked in Turkey and helped Armenians, or even about one of the "righteous" Turks - in other words, telling the story from another angle entirely. Look at the many books written by Germans (Gunter Grass, Bernhard Schlink) about the xxxish Holocaust. Granted, the "facts" need to be known to a certain extent, and relatively few people know about the first genocide of the 20th century.

I realize such a film or book will require a lot of research. Well, it can be a start.

Oh, and it needs to be unsentimental.

[KanadaHye]

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More importantly, the film should not have Armenians behind it unless they know what they are doing. There are certain Armenian filmmakers who have enough recognition elsewhere and think they can make an impact worldwide and they can't. We need studios behind us, professional screenwriters and filmmakers. The screenplay won't be written overnight in Armenia... if it's going to work and make an impact, it's going to be written in Hollywood.

If Hollywood is involved, it will probably end up being a love story beween a turkish soldier his armenian captive.

If I have some spare time, I'll work on the turkish harem rescue scene where the hero's and heroine's infiltrate the heavily guarded fortress of the sultan and rescue the group of captives. Now... all we need is an Armenian Jackie Chan....

[Sako]

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Absolutely but we shouldn't completely base the movie on facts. It doesn't allow the audience to use his/her imagination too much which isn't very good. Plus, it doesn't allow a script writer to use his/her imagination which is REALLY not good.

[Lika]

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We should try be it, based on facts or not. We can't speculate what audience we will have untill we try.

[Sako]

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Saco, you're all about putting facts on film and sometimes that's not the best way to get your message across. Perhaps you should think about another form of expression.

You know what I don't like the most, One-Way? When people say I've done something or think in a certain way when I've done and continue to do exactly the opposite. Which part of my posts hinted that I'm all about facts? All this time ... even in your thread, I've said that the movie SHOULDN'T be based only on facts. It really ruins an experience in many cases. The facts should be in the movie but the movie shouldn't completely be facts. I don't like it when everything is fact. We're not making a documentary, we're making a movie.

We could come up with a masterpiece and bottom line is, we don't have to stick COMPLETELY to the facts. So many things happened during the AG that we don't know about so no one can really come in our face and say this or that part of your movie never happened. We can use our imagination and make a hell of a movie. Till now I'm working on my own script and I hope to get it filmed one day. I'm sure you do too. Good luck with that.

[Lika]

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Any film, whether it's about a world war or genocide, has potential to succeed regardless of "who knows about the events." It doesn't really matter whether there's an audience. If it's a good film, it's a good film. How many films are there about the Holocaust and World War II? Why does Schindler's List stand out from these lists?

Schindler's List was written by an Armenian though.
Check the link:

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Steven_Zaillian

[One-Way]

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Saco, you're all about putting facts on film and sometimes that's not the best way to get your message across. Perhaps you should think about another form of expression.

[Sako]

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See, that's the problem.

I haven't seen The Lark Farm but I have it sitting on my computer and will eventually get around to, but I've heard it's better than all the others. Of course, like every other film, it's subjective but I can imagine why... because there's some great filmmakers behind the film... and they're not all Armenian!

That's ok, but there have to be lots of Armenians. I think we both agree with this.

Listen, it's not about pain and anger. I'm all for emotion, but you should know that if a film solely relies on emotion, it's doomed. That's our problem, we have so many emotions that we're going to forget about what we're trying to do.

I'm talking about expressing ourselves PROPERLY. And if your all for emotion then you probably know very well that no one other then an Armenian can properly take the role of an Armenian. I've seen many try and many, many failed. Look at the actor that played Clarence Usher in Ararat. I liked that. But if he took the role of say General Andranik or a Fedayeen, I'd stop watching the damn movie before it even began. it just doesn't work. Your into film, I'm sure you perfectly understand what I'm saying.

There's more problems out there, beyond us both. Film is a business, which is why certain films get made and others don't. It's a business. Come to Hollywood, Saco. It's not just about picking up a camera and making a film anymore. It's business.

We'll just have to make it work then. We'll have to beat Hollywood at it's own spoilt game. And regarding me coming there ... I will eventually ! Tell the studios there to keep their cameras in a good state till I get there...

[One-Way]

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See, that's the problem.

I haven't seen The Lark Farm but I have it sitting on my computer and will eventually get around to, but I've heard it's better than all the others. Of course, like every other film, it's subjective but I can imagine why... because there's some great filmmakers behind the film... and they're not all Armenian!

Listen, it's not about pain and anger. I'm all for emotion, but you should know that if a film solely relies on emotion, it's doomed. That's our problem, we have so many emotions that we're going to forget about what we're trying to do.

There's more problems out there, beyond us both. Film is a business, which is why certain films get made and others don't. It's a business. Come to Hollywood, Saco. It's not just about picking up a camera and making a film anymore. It's business.

[Sako]

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who says that all WWI or WWII movies are like this?

I didn't say all were !

The Armenian Genocide maybe the first genocide of the 20th century, but in no possible way is it the first major genocide in history, there are far many worse genocides that happened prior. I'm sure you know this, but some armos don't so it always helps to reiterate

I meant of the 20th century.

it maybe a hot potato, but it's like a baked potato that's been sitting under a heating lamp at wendy's for a very long time. Ever notice how people only care about it in april? (turks, americans, armenians) The movie would most likely be banned in Turkey and Azerbaijan as well, so don't count on a Turkish audience

Turks and Azeris will still see it and I understand what you mean. People don't pay attention. It depends on how we advertise and market the movie.