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Armenian govt hands over Metsamor power plant to the turk
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Re: Armenian govt hands over Metsamor power plant to the turk
Originally posted by merhayrenik View Post
Turkey is our enemy and they are very cunning. We Armenians are very forgetful about our past and how horrific turkey was towards us by annihilating in total our nation and with it we have lost the majority (90%) of our lands. We cannot simply ask turkey to be part of our Metsamor Nuclear plant as turkey may aid us monetarily. We are simply looking into mega trouble by forgetting our horrific past committed by our number one enemy the turks and simply handing over our nuclear power plant. We can seek for instance our allies Russia or France to collaborate with us with our nuclear plants. Our government is being utterly naiive and forgetful in handing over such a huge armament to turkey and putting their trust in turkey. Just in the immediate past turkey killed Hrant Dink, turkey claims that we killed them (how is that possible when they took over all of Western Armenia yet the descendant survivors from Western Armenia are scattered all over the world)? Yet they are all living in our lands. Turkey further educates in their schools to our children that we killed them and not the other way around. turkey is definitely a nation to be frightened from and not to be trusted but approach her with knowledge of her cunning diplomacy and that they are against Armenia and how turkey has blockaded Armenia for the sake of azeris and more. These are all vital reasons of turkey being our enemy.
Therefore our government's elite must remember and be advised who turkey is? In our schools we must teach our children how to be diplomatically knowledgeable.
Bottom line turkey is so near to us and we must be alarmed by turkey and weigh all the consequences before we approach to her and hand over our nuclear power plant. The speaker further said that opening the borders with turkey is not suggestible. He certainly doesn't feel that is a good thing for Armenia!!!!!!Last edited by Anoush; 05-08-2009, 05:52 PM.
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Re: Armenian govt hands over Metsamor power plant to the turk
The speaker further said that turkey wants diplomatically to adhere to the desires of the EU and the UN by opening the borders with Armenia to make herself look good so that they can get into the European Union. Something that they always wanted as they have a great deal to gain monetarily/financially from Europe. That is why turkey went into war in Europe in the past; but now their dreams of getting in the EU is pretty much coming through. Bottom line, that's why turkey wishes to open their borders with Armenia; but apart from gaining a little bit from turkey ourselves, we will lose a GREAT deal when we are dealing with an enemey that in reality they still didn't put their guns down and they NEVER will!!!!!
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Re: Armenian govt hands over Metsamor power plant to the turk
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Re: Armenian govt hands over Metsamor power plant to the turk
Originally posted by Anoush View PostThe speaker further said that turkey wants diplomatically to adhere to the desires of the EU and the UN by opening the borders with Armenia to make herself look good so that they can get into the European Union. Something that they always wanted as they have a great deal to gain monetarily/financially from Europe. That is why turkey went into war in Europe in the past; but now their dreams of getting in the EU is pretty much coming through. Bottom line, that's why turkey wishes to open their borders with Armenia; but apart from gaining a little bit from turkey ourselves, we will lose a GREAT deal when we are dealing with an enemey that in reality they still didn't put their guns down and they NEVER will!!!!!
*Last edited by hipeter924; 05-09-2009, 02:27 PM.
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Watched most of the videos and found out one thing those guys don't give one piece of proof for what they are saying. We just have to believe them.
Anoush jan Turkey is never going to enter the EU because Germany and France don't want it in the EU. They can change as luch as they want they'll never enter the EU . They have too much people living in their country and they'll have too much power when they enter the EU.
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostWatched most of the videos and found out one thing those guys don't give one piece of proof for what they are saying. We just have to believe them.
Anoush jan Turkey is never going to enter the EU because Germany and France don't want it in the EU. They can change as luch as they want they'll never enter the EU . They have too much people living in their country and they'll have too much power when they enter the EU.
http://www.unrv.com/roman-empire-map.php"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X
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Originally posted by KanadaHye View PostOr maybe the powers that be are trying to recreate the Roman Empire, and Turkey IS part of the plan.
http://www.unrv.com/roman-empire-map.php
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Originally posted by hipeter924 View PostNo. They don't want Turkey...but if they do...it will be to crush them underfoot."Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostWatched most of the videos and found out one thing those guys don't give one piece of proof for what they are saying. We just have to believe them.
Anoush jan Turkey is never going to enter the EU because Germany and France don't want it in the EU. They can change as luch as they want they'll never enter the EU . They have too much people living in their country and they'll have too much power when they enter the EU.
But here is another reason to dislike the Turkey lover Obama:
Obama’s plea to EU on Turkey carries risks
– Paul Taylor is a Reuters columnist. The opinions expressed are his own –
Basking in adulation across Europe, U.S. President Barack Obama chose to expend some of his political capital to urge the European Union to open its doors to Turkey.
This public reaffirmation of long-standing U.S. policy fits in with Obama’s attempt to restore the United States’ standing in the Muslim world, using Turkey as a platform for his first state visit to a Muslim country. It also helps rebuild strategic ties with Ankara that sank to a low ebb under George W. Bush, when Turkey refused to allow U.S. forces to use its territory and airspace to invade Iraq.
And it contributed to convincing Turkish leaders at the weekend to drop their opposition to appointing the Danish prime minister as the new head of NATO.
But it risks raising unrealistic expectations that may cause deeper disenchantment between Turks and Europeans if the EU accession negotiations remain in a slow lane to nowhere.
Obama’s call drew an instant brush-off from French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Sarkozy said it was up to EU members to decide who joins and that “the immense majority” of EU states opposed full Turkish membership. Merkel said there were obviously “differences of opinion.”
SECOND THOUGHTS
Although EU countries agreed unanimously in 2004 to start talks with Ankara with the goal of membership, some have since had second thoughts, due to hostile public opinion. France and Austria have made eventual accession subject to a referendum in their countries, raising the bar.
The talks have been hobbled by the Cyprus dispute, which led to the freezing of 8 of the 35 negotiating chapters, and by Sarkozy’s refusal to permit negotiation on policy areas that assume Turkish membership, putting another 5 off limits.
The main reason Obama cited for the EU to embrace Turkey — building ties with Muslims — is not the strongest selling point in Europe. Turkey’s qualifications include being a secular, democratic state with a vibrant market economy, a longstanding member of NATO and the Council of Europe and a strategically positioned energy hub.
His argument that Turkey has to be anchored firmly in Europe implies that it might otherwise drift off into Middle Eastern violence and religious intolerance, hardly a mark of confidence.
Turkey deserves EU membership if it meets the same criteria as all other candidates. These involve freedom of expression and the rule of law, as well as the capacity to adopt and implement more than 80,000 pages of European laws and regulations.
They require fundamental changes in the state established by Kemal Ataturk in 1923 that face resistance from nationalist elites in the army, the judiciary and the bureaucracy.
But Obama is right to warn Europeans they would do lasting harm if they are perceived to discriminate against Turkey because it is a Muslim country.
Turkey is not part of the Muslim world, Iran, Syria and most nations of the Muslim world hate Turkey because it supports Israel*...the only thing they share is the Muslim faith. What a retarded idea Obama has.
*But Israel is turning against TurkeyLast edited by hipeter924; 05-09-2009, 03:06 PM.
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