Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black World

[KanadaHye]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

It seems that there has not been much progress : http://forum.hyeclub.com/showpost.ph...24&postcount=4

There is still a mixure of different topics in the debate :

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showpost.php?p=285983&postcount=48

It is no use to argue with racists. We know that they have problems with themselves rooted (consciously or unconciously) in their childhood. They are beyond the no return point. They try to rationalize in "scientific" or "national" arguments. Unconsciously, this helps them to breave ...and maybe to be "happier" ?

We have a good exemple here with our dear friend Մովսես. His logo is an insignia, a coat of arms presenting INTERPOL in Armenian. It seems that he (unconsciously) see criminals everywhere ...meanwhile there are so many positive things to think of, to aim to -with efforts of course.

We have to be conscious, to be aware that we, Armenians, have a particular historical heritage to bear because of 1915 AG, its impunity and its present denial.

Nowadays, psychologues and psychanlysts have studied this heavy legacy. In France [ http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en ] we have two French Armenian specialists who have published :

- Mrs Janine Altounian : http://www.collectifvan.org/article.php?r=0&id=40031 - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ine2009pub.pdf -

- Mrs Helene Piralian-Simonyan : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...0_piralian.htm - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ralian2008.htm

Please, ask to your friends to find editors to publish their works in English. Thank you.

Do you have any www on Armenian Americans who have published such works ? It is for my page : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...eneralites.htm

Best regards from Paris.

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/ecrire.htm

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You should feed some of this to your government and their involvement in Algeria, Ivory Coast, etc. Racism yegher.

[Haykakan]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

"You should feed some of this to your government and their involvement in Algeria, Ivory Coast, etc. Racism yegher."
So i guess your implying that it is ok to be racist since someone else was racist before?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

No, I'm implying that everyone whether they admit it or not has some sort of racist tendency and perception (whether they admit it or not) but it is usually a dot on the radar compared to the real injustices that go on in the world. For the most part, Armenians aren't nearly as racist as some other people I've came across in my travels. Perhaps that's due to the fact that we have thrived among other cultures and have had to do business with different kinds of people.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

No, I'm implying that everyone whether they admit it or not has some sort of racist tendency and perception (whether they admit it or not) but it is usually a dot on the radar compared to the real injustices that go on in the world. For the most part, Armenians aren't nearly as racist as some other people I've came across in my travels. Perhaps that's due to the fact that we have thrived among other cultures and have had to do business with different kinds of people.

True compare Armenia to Alabama

[CRDA-France]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

You should feed some of this to your government and their involvement in Algeria, Ivory Coast, etc. Racism yegher.

LOL. Presently there is an important official France debate [ http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en ] :

"For you what is to be French ?"

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr_9informationcitoyenne/elections/identitenationale00.htm

I really wonder how they are going to go through this unprepared and passionate debate ?

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr_9informationcitoyenne/000_hgafca.htm

But still, we are moved away from our primary topic : Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black World , http://forum.hyeclub.com/showpost.ph...8&postcount=90

I am going to post a reply informing this to the debate on French Diversity : http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=6399

Nil
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[Armanen]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

I think it is funny that you say these things because many people say the exact same thing about us armenians. You expect others to embrace you yet you refuse to embrace others. You dont need a college degree to figure out the hyocracy here. Armenia being overrunned by blacks and muslims is a joke, it is one of the most homogenious countries on earth and it could badly use some diversity. We armenians are the last people on earth who should be racist because so many nations took us in and let us prosper and here we are like stupid childeren panicing about a hanfull of blacks and persians. It really is a shame. BTW Armanen if you think my outlook on religion is messed up then why not argue with it in the religion thread? Oh thats right, you cant win that argument either. I really do feel sorry for the people that have to put up with you guys.

Argue with you about what? Why do I need to prove anything to you? Furthermore, you will never understand me because unlike you I try not to operate on a purely material level, something which you wouldn't comprehend.
And feel sorry for yourself, not others.

[Armanen]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Would a Caucasian be better..say a German, pardon me, but didn't they help the Turks to wipe out Armenians...a Spaniard? Another people who committed Genocide, the English, people who invaded the land they occupy today?

Really are blacks so bad? And ultimately what do you define as Caucasian I can give you a hell of alot of information that on a genetic and anthropolgy scale makes Europeans and Armenians look far different. Genetics wise and facial features Armenians do not look like Englishmen for example.

A Caucasian would be better yes. You use a political term, European, and then bring up genetics and anthropology. There are many theories as to where the PIE (Proto-Indo-European) homeland is, one of the theories places it in the Armenian Highlands, another in western Asia Minor, and the Kuban theory north of the Black Sea. It's difficult to talk about all these issues when there is no clear cut answer but to assume that Armenians, a people who have lived in the southern Caucasus and the Armenian Highlands for over 4000 years, are not related to the various tribes that would go on to become the forefathers of the modern nations of Europe is a bit absurd. There are too many cultural, lingustic, historical, religious, and genetic similarities.

As for you bringing up Armenians and comparing them to the English, have you ever compared an Armenian and an African from Kenya or Ghana?

[Haykakan]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Argue with you about what? Why do I need to prove anything to you? Furthermore, you will never understand me because unlike you I try not to operate on a purely material level, something which you wouldn't comprehend.
And feel sorry for yourself, not others.

Vai mama jan, not another Sako. What happened to that kid anyways?

[Armanen]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Vai mama jan, not another Sako. What happened to that kid anyways?

And you just verified what I already suspected about you.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

A Caucasian would be better yes. You use a political term, European, and then bring up genetics and anthropology. There are many theories as to where the PIE (Proto-Indo-European) homeland is, one of the theories places it in the Armenian Highlands, another in western Asia Minor, and the Kuban theory north of the Black Sea. It's difficult to talk about all these issues when there is no clear cut answer but to assume that Armenians, a people who have lived in the southern Caucasus and the Armenian Highlands for over 4000 years, are not related to the various tribes that would go on to become the forefathers of the modern nations of Europe is a bit absurd. There are too many cultural, lingustic, historical, religious, and genetic similarities.

As for you bringing up Armenians and comparing them to the English, have you ever compared an Armenian and an African from Kenya or Ghana?

You lot are the ones trying to put Saxons close to Armenians not me, Armenians and Africans differ...so do Armenians and Africans, and if we get into genetic biodiversity, people in the same race can have more difference than two different races, see Italian Professor Cavalli-Sforza's work.

As to modern nations of Europe, do you have any evidence for these, can you show me where and when Europeans of Scandinavia came out of the Caucasus, how directly, how long, what changes occured.

Technically Native Americans, ASians, Europeans and Middle Easterners were once one race, hence the NOP Haplogroup which became O, N and P, and then P had Q and R .

So your point is moot.