How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Persopolis]

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ISRAEL / AZERBAIJAN CONNECTION FROM WIKILEAKS DISCUSSED:

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2010/12/16/13148.shtml

(It's' my opinion that Israel has tried to assist Azerbaijan/Turkey to turn Armenia into the New Gaza Strip. Remember Palestinians are Christians and Muslims.)

[Persopolis]

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http://www.news.az/articles/politics/33547

Monte Melkonian = No Fan of Israel.

Israeli mass media, political technologist Avigdor Eskin:

'Certainly, there are radical terrorist groups, which can be compared to terrorist regimes of Nazi Germany and Italy. But we also should mention Armenian ASALA, whose members including one of its leaders Monte Melkonyan, were training at the campus of Palestinian radicals and then carried out terror acts in Israel and other European countries, terminating civilians. But it is completely wrong to speak of existence of international Islamic terrorism', he said.

Israeli political technologist stressed the presence of double standards in world policy saying Azerbaijan and Israel are victims of this policy and unjust attitude of the world community.

'The world is so strange. The UN Security Council passes decisions on Libya, while international coalition is already bombing this country. At the same time, the UN Security Council has passed four resolutions on the occupied territories of Azerbaijan but the world community is indifferent to this.

The world forgets that Armenians held complete cleansing, deporting more than a million of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and occupied Azerbaijani lands. The world community does not consider them as refugees, though Armenian representatives who undertake cleansing were terrorists', Eskin said.

Head of the delegation Avigdor Eskin [of Israel] said that on March 30, they visited mass cemetery in Guba. He noted that there are bones of xxxish, Lezghin and Talish among the Azerbaijanis killed Dashnaks and Bolsheviks in 1918: “Such events must not be forgotten. The world does not want to hear about the Khojaly incidents and does not know more about this tragedy as well”. http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=143875

[Persopolis]

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Persopolis, do not listen to herman, you are doing a great job and I know that many readers of this forum, members and guests, enjoy your posts!

Thanks Armanen - Cheers.

[Armanen]

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Persopolis, do not listen to herman, you are doing a great job and I know that many readers of this forum, members and guests, enjoy your posts!

[Persopolis]

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(1) Maybe we should make some "crypto-arabs" responsible for the Armenian Genocide because a lot of Turks have Arab ancestors ?! (2) You really don't need to bring this crap up again and again.

1. If there is some evidence of crypto-arab involvement in the Armenian Genocide, I don't mind pointing it out or discussing it. However, there's credible evidence that B'nai B'rith was involved and they certainly have been involved in the cover-up from World War I up to the present date. For example, if there was a group called: "Arabs for Concealing the Armenian Genocide (ACAG)" it would be important for people to know that and discuss it.

2. I never posted the actual video before - I thought it would be interesting to hear his viewpoint directly. (If the video was posted before, I'm sorry.) Has it?

[HermanGerman]

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Maybe we should make some "crypto-arabs" responsible for the Armenian Genocide because a lot of Turks have Arab ancestors ?!
@Persepolis
Barada jun, by posting such bullxxxx you will lose your credibility. You really don't need to bring this crap up again and again. Have you not realized that we already are on the side of Iran ?!

[Persopolis]

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Excerpted From: Jimmy Johnson, The Electronic Intifada, 28 March 2011
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11880.shtml

"Most of the world recognizes Azerbaijani sovereignty over Nagorno-Karbakh, but it is a de facto independent state pending the conclusion of Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations. Turkey and Israel were two of Azerbaijan's primary supporters in the conflict. The US embassy cable notes that Israeli-Azerbaijani relations are 'discreet but close.' This was put concisely by Israeli President Shimon Peres during a June 2009 visit to Baku: "You bring the oil, we'll bring the ability and technology" ("Azerbaijan: Aeronautics and Shikun & Binui in large contracts," Globes, 28 June 2009). By 2009, Azerbaijan was providing between 25-40 percent of all Israeli oil imports. Israel helped re-equip the Azerbaijani forces immediately after the Nagorno-Karbakh war. And the neoconservative Middle East Quarterly notes that more recently, "Israeli firms built and guard the fence around Baku's international airport, monitor and help protect Azerbaijan's energy infrastructure, and even provide security for Azerbaijan's president on his foreign visits" ("Israel and Azerbaijan's Furtive Embrace," Summer 2006). Since 2005, Israel has sold surface-to-air missiles, rocket launchers, communications equipment, drones, mortars, ammunition military satellites and more. Israeli firms have upgraded Azerbaijan's Soviet-era T-72 tanks and installed a public surveillance system in the capital of Baku. Just last week a factory constructed by Israeli firm Aeronautics Defense Systems began producing surveillance drones. The 2009 cable notes, "Much like Israel, Azerbaijan perceives Iran as a major, even existential security threat."

In my opinion no sane Armenian should ever support Israel again under these facts; had Iran and Russia not helped Armenia, there would have been no Armenia, or at best, Armenians would have become the "New Palestinians."

[Persopolis]

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Interesting video I found. (Note: The first video I found was removed by youtube as soon as I posted it here; here's another one.)

Note: some other historians give different motives for the participation of the crypto-j*ws in the AG (e.g., they wanted to take over Armenian businesses and objected to Christians).

[Persopolis]

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This is a follow-up to Post #202 Regarding the Khazar take-over of Azerbaijan:

Article Excerpted to Show Common Points to Post #202. Read in full here: http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/sep...s-nationworld/

The Associated Press
Published: September 21, 2008

MOSCOW - A Russian archaeologist says he has found the lost capital of the Khazars, a powerful nation that adopted Judaism as its official religion more than 1,000 years ago, only to disappear and leave little trace of its culture.

The Khazar empire was once a regional superpower, and Vasilyev said his team has found "luxurious collections" of well-preserved ceramics that help identify cultural ties of the Khazar state with Europe, the Byzantine Empire and even Northern Africa. They also found armor, wooden kitchenware, glass lamps and cups, xxxelry, and vessels for transporting precious balms dating back to the eighth and ninth centuries, he said.

He said his dig revealed traces of a large fire that probably dates from the Russian conquest. He said Itil was rebuilt after the fall of the Khazar empire, when ethnic Khazars were slowly assimilated by Turkic-speaking tribes, Tatars and Mongols, who inhabited the city until it was flooded by the rising Caspian Sea around the 14th century.

KHAZAR EMPIRE

•The Khazars were a Turkic tribe that roamed the steppes from Northern China to the Black Sea.

•The Khazars' ruling dynasty and nobility converted to Judaism sometime in the 8th or 9th centuries.

•The study of the Khazar empire was discouraged in the Soviet Union. The dictator Josef Stalin, in particular, detested the idea that a xxxish empire had come before Russia's own. He ordered references to Khazar history removed from textbooks.

Source: The Associated Press

[Persopolis]

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Well, first the technology and wealth was exported to US and Russia from Germany... then after creating the Israeli state, they began transferring the technology to Israel.

Fair enough; Please have a look at this one also.