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  • Eddo211
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Muslim Iran is one our best allies.
    We Armenians are older than Christianity but the faith did keep us together during our worst times.
    Muslim Armenians are no longer a real Armenian.

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  • Shant03
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    Can you define what is a pre Christian Armenian which you want us to be, perhaps references as well.

    Also in what way will it help us face our present challenges as a country as well as a nation?

    Why is it that you you despise Christian Armenians yet you want to embrace "Muslim Armenians".

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    x2 big red star for you.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    ... Being Armenian is much more then being Christian. Being Armenian predates Christianity, it predates most other civilizations.
    You are doing a disservice to your own culture by limiting it to just Christianity.
    Can you define what is a pre Christian Armenian which you want us to be, perhaps references as well.

    Also in what way will it help us face our present challenges as a country as well as a nation?

    Why is it that you you despise Christian Armenians yet you want to embrace "Muslim Armenians".

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    Last edited by londontsi; 10-13-2015, 10:11 PM.

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  • Shant03
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    "I would welcome a turk before I accept a Muslim Armenian. "
    Unfortunately many Armenians feel this way. Valuing religion over being Armenian is a huge mistake. Being Armenian is much more then being Christian. Being Armenian predates Christianity, it predates most other civilizations. You are doing a disservice to your own culture by limiting it to just Christianity.
    You cannot be muslim and retain your armenian heritage/culture. I don't care how you want to paint it, the two don't mix. If you are muslim, you belong with muslims. A Muslim armenian is not going to join the army to kill muslim azerbaijanis... at that point they have more in common with azeri's than us.

    I actually find you funny how you are so anti-west yet so welcoming of muslims. Let me ask you this, what muslim country treats others with the same respect you appear to be giving them? What if the majority of Armenian's became muslim in Armenia.. you wouldn't care right?
    Last edited by Shant03; 10-13-2015, 09:07 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    "I would welcome a turk before I accept a Muslim Armenian. "
    Unfortunately many Armenians feel this way. Valuing religion over being Armenian is a huge mistake. Being Armenian is much more then being Christian. Being Armenian predates Christianity, it predates most other civilizations. You are doing a disservice to your own culture by limiting it to just Christianity.

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  • Shant03
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    I am generalizing obviously but this has been my experience of our culture when it comes to Religion. Armenians born in Iran/Iraq/Lebanon/Syria..etc.. are very faithful when it comes to their christian religion. For example, my family relocated to Iran from Parakar 400 years ago. To this day we have Armenian churches in one of the most radical muslim countries in the world, a country which stones women for having affairs and hangs homosexuals by cranes. We have over 20 churches with most of them being located in the capital of the country because all my ancestors knew was to be Armenian which meant to be Christian. Only 25 years ago, Armenians in ARMENIA were not allowed to practice their christian faith. They were not allowed to step foot in Etchmiadzin. This is one of the main factors as to why there is such a huge gap between my faith and my cousins who grew up in Armenia.

    Many of you may view Armenian's from Iran as half Armenians, or do not put differences between an Armenian born in Iran and a muslim Armenian, but that is where you are wrong. I admire Armenians before we adopted the Christian religion as our own, but I also feel the Christian religion shares a lot of similiarities as to what being Armenian is all about. I would welcome a turk before I accept a Muslim Armenian.
    Last edited by Shant03; 10-13-2015, 05:50 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    https://news.vice.com/video/the-isla...te-full-length
    That vid was worth a watch. Feast your eyes on the results of USA foreign policy.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    https://news.vice.com/video/the-isla...te-full-length

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    It seems to me like some of you guys talking so fondly about accepting Armenians who freely covert to Islam- not Genocide victims-or about preferring Muslims to Atheists haven't actually lived among Muslims. And no watered down Muslims in the west don't count.

    I introduce you to Ashura Tasura, one of many beautiful muslim traditions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGbhBRdDFS4
    I guess you did not know but chrystians have the same tradition/practice. People are not so different.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellant

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  • londontsi
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    Re: What if Armenians were Muslim?

    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    It seems to me like some of you guys talking so fondly about accepting Armenians who freely covert to Islam- not Genocide victims-or about preferring Muslims to Atheists haven't actually lived among Muslims. And no watered down Muslims in the west don't count.

    I introduce you to Ashura Tasura, one of many beautiful muslim traditions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGbhBRdDFS4

    I think being aware, with an understanding of other religions is a mature thing, suffice to say as long as it does not cause offence to you or your own nation.

    Most people who profess to belong to a religion rarely have a full understanding of the religion let alone practicing it.

    When an individual declares one religion is better than another one is usually is an ignorant individual who has had a bad experience or met an undesirable clergy

    and generalises his frustration and disappointment universally against the whole religion.

    In order to fully understand a religion one must have a degree of knowledge which can only be acquired with years of study as well as mental to attitude to that study.
    Something most people rarely have the time or purpose to do.

    Therefore people tend to stay in the religion they were brought up in perpetuating the religious community not through theology but social belonging.

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