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  • Federate
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Azar View Post
    Doesn't Armenia take in many Kurdish refugees? How do you feel about that?
    It does not... at least not that I know of. We have Yezidis (who don't identify themselves as Kurds and in fact hate them) living in Armenia and they are among our most patriotic citizens. Some served in the liberation of Artsakh.

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  • Federate
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Azar View Post
    I'm surprised and deeply offended at the anti-Kurdish racism here.

    I thought Kurds and Armenians were like brothers?
    The only reason the Kurds accept the Armenian Genocide is because they are being massacred by Turks in the present so this is a hard qualifier to make us "brotherly" when it is kinda like an "I-told-you-so" situation. As for Armenian support of the Kurdish cause only reason you'd find such support is because the Kurds and Turks are killing each other and weakening each other. This might sound brutal and hopefully less and less civilians die but it is better for us if the conflict goes on as long as it can so both sides exhaust themselves. It is also nice to hear once in awhile Kurds blowing up segments of the BTC pipeline. After Turkey, the Kurds are going to be a bigger obstacle to eventually re-conquering Western Armenia.

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  • Azar
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Brothers? What are you joking? Do you know it was Kurds who carried out the dirty work during the Genocide. Yeah some "brothers", they stole our land, killed our people, stabbed us in the back in the worst way possible and kissed Turks ass, and now they live in our ancestral homeland.

    We could care less about their struggles or their lands, bunch of backward, nomadic, back stabbers are what they are...
    Doesn't Armenia take in many Kurdish refugees? How do you feel about that?

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  • KanadaHye
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Azar View Post
    We can't blame all Kurds for these barbaric acts committed against Armenians.

    The Kurdish people deserve their own country, they have been oppressed for millenniums.
    The Assyrians and Chaldeans deserve their own country before the Kurds. Their national aspirations were a result of other powers dangling the carrot on a stick and then pulling the stick away or else they were content with their nomadic lives.

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  • Mos
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Azar View Post
    I'm surprised and deeply offended at the anti-Kurdish racism here.

    I thought Kurds and Armenians were like brothers?
    Brothers? What are you joking? Do you know it was Kurds who carried out the dirty work during the Genocide. Yeah some "brothers", they stole our land, killed our people, stabbed us in the back in the worst way possible and kissed Turks ass, and now they live in our ancestral homeland.

    We could care less about their struggles or their lands, bunch of backward, nomadic, back stabbers are what they are...

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  • Azar
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Either you don't know the history or you're pushing buttons....


    "After the loss of the European part of its empire in the Balkans, in the midst of World War I, the Ottoman Empire feared for its hold upon Anatolia itself, and decided to settle the long-unfinished business of conquest with a conscious act of genocide. But the Turks lacked the resources to do so in the midst of war, and Turkey’s military leaders enlisted Kurdish tribes to do most of the actual killing in return for Armenian land. That is why Kurds dominate eastern Turkey, which used to be called, “Western Armenia”. The Armenian genocide, in short, gave rise to what today is Turkey’s Kurdish problem. "

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ16Ak02.html
    We can't blame all Kurds for these barbaric acts committed against Armenians.

    The Kurdish people deserve their own country, they have been oppressed for millenniums.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Azar View Post
    I'm surprised and deeply offended at the anti-Kurdish racism here.

    I thought Kurds and Armenians were like brothers?
    Either you don't know the history or you're pushing buttons....


    "After the loss of the European part of its empire in the Balkans, in the midst of World War I, the Ottoman Empire feared for its hold upon Anatolia itself, and decided to settle the long-unfinished business of conquest with a conscious act of genocide. But the Turks lacked the resources to do so in the midst of war, and Turkey’s military leaders enlisted Kurdish tribes to do most of the actual killing in return for Armenian land. That is why Kurds dominate eastern Turkey, which used to be called, “Western Armenia”. The Armenian genocide, in short, gave rise to what today is Turkey’s Kurdish problem. "

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ16Ak02.html

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  • Azar
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    PJAK is making life very hard for Kurds who have lived in Iran as Iranians forever. There is absolutely no justification or legitimacy in their land claim. They had roamed the mountains as long as they have been around until Turks took it away from them, I sympathies but now they have a very good chance in Northern Iraq....they should be very careful not to allow it to fall under Ankara's influence (Which might be too late, they are cooperating with them already, oil deals, new Turkish consulate/embassy building) and they should be very wary of Western powers and Israel using them as a proxy which these powers will eventually throw them to the Wolfs, as they have in the past.
    Let's hope and pray that Kurds receive their freedom and rights in a peaceful way. I often hear about how badly Kurds are oppressed in the Middle-East, I feel sorry for them. I hope and pray for peace.

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  • Azar
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    I'm surprised and deeply offended at the anti-Kurdish racism here.

    I thought Kurds and Armenians were like brothers?

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  • KanadaHye
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    Re: Would you be okay with giving away southern Armenia?

    Originally posted by levon View Post
    In the end it's nothing but false words and false promises all stemming from the unbelievably illogical viewpoint that somehow, someway, respect, fairness, equality should never be earned, but instead, should be given away for free.

    I have an awesome suggestion. I would love it if you moved to Turkey and started spreading your liberal viewpoints. In a short while Turkey will just give us our lands back out of "respect".
    The liberal ideology that they force on us was brilliantly thought up by the ultra wealthy. They take money from the hard working class and give it to the welfare cases and call it "equality". They give jobs and positions to people that have no business having them because of their "colour" or "gender" and call it "equality". Of course the bleeding heart liberals (mostly women... and men that were breast fed until they were 8 or never had a father figure) eat it up. The Kurds were nomadic people, they were lucky enough to be allowed to graze in the pastures with the farm animals and now they want land that was never theirs? It's not enough that they live in villages that once belonged to Armenians? I hope they realize that they are just there for the time being and there will be knocks on their doors with eviction notices in the future.

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