Current Condition of Armenia

[Armanen]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

It is the 28th of February in Armenia, I thought they were going to gather on March 1st...

[Federate]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

It is the 28th of February in Armenia, I thought they were going to gather on March 1st...

Might be why it's just a small gathering.

[Mos]

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Isn't supposed be a prolonged protest? Lasting indefinite amount of time? or is it only one day?

[Nare]

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These kinds of donations, while somewhat effective at touching a very very small percentage of those in need, do not in any way solve any major problems. In fact, then breed a culture of dependence, with the unfortunate side-effect that most of them will never get to any aid. Helping a few here and there may make you or the other bloggers feel important as you've "helped" some people, but in reality, you have done absolutely nothing that will prevent people from getting into these kinds of conditions. In fact, those who are dependent on those donations to survive, will come to "expect" them as time passes, and rather than spend time to find ways to make ends meet, they will simply continue holding their palms up, asking for help. When victim hood is rewarded and even encouraged, it paralyzes those who are supposedly being helped. This creates permanent dependence rather than something temporary.

If you still want to give money, have them do something in return, even if the work is meaningless, it inspires respect as one earns money, rather than receives it.

We don't help to feel good, we Hayastancis outside of Armenia, already send money back home every single month, we constantly send parcels to family, friends, relatives.
And it means many of us still rent out houses, take extra shifts and don't make our trollies full for ourselves. We help because we understand those people need help now and here, and not waiting for some projects.

This fedayis girl is 5 years old, she has severe ear ache, her mum took her to hospital where they didn't helo since mum didn't have money to pay. Mum carried her daughter all way back home to some village while kid was crying out of pain. She says when she grows up she will become "kids' doctor" to help kids without money.

Are yu aware now about the scandal among French Armenians when they found out their money never ended up for Hayastan people but got into pocket of a lady who opened fashionable pubs for herself?

At least this way you make sure this kid has daily food

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05tSDoxxdK8&feature=player_embedded

[Nare]

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It has started. So far doesn't look like much.

No, it isn't revolution ;-)))

Such gatherings happen very often since new mayor closed street trade. These people are those who were selling in the streets and now mayor made it illegal, above I posted video aout it...

[Federate]

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Tigran Karapetyan's People's Party is another opposition force but it has not joined the Հայ Ազգային Կոնգրես. Incidentally, the ՀԱԿ does not like Karapetyan and calls them agents of the government who are sent to steal votes from the ՀԱԿ by dividing the opposition. LTP and the ՀԱԿ further demonstrate a hostile antagonist view of everyone not in the ՀԱԿ, they have a mentality of "if you are not with us, you are a government agent". Karapetyan is radical like LTP and calls for the resignment of the entire government.
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Rally of People’s Party kicks off in Yerevan

February 28, 2011 | 16:54

Half an hour ago rally staged by the Armenian People’s Party kicked off in Yerevan. The participants were handed red cards which they intend to show the authorities demanding their resignation.

The participants honored memory of the victims of Sumgait massacre and March 1 events with a minute silence. Leader of the party Tigran Karapetyan expressed gratitude to the gathered noting that many managed to attend the rally despite roads closed by the authorities. According to eyewitnesses, only several hundreds attended the demonstration.

The People’s Party is headed by Tigran Karapetyan, owner of the ALM media holding. The party is not represented in the parliament. Tigran Karapetyan is a 2008 presidential candidate. His ALM TV was denied a broadcasting license last December and went off the air in January.

http://news.am/eng/news/49611.html

[Mos]

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oh I hate Karapetyan - I've seen him on television numerous times, that guy gets on my nerves.

[Federate]

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Armenian riot police cars have gathered near Freedom square ahead of March 1.
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[Federate]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Here is the inside scoop on the plan tomorrow (or today, in Yerevan). A conversation between two "revolutionaries" who will be attending tomorrow's demonstrations has surfaced divisions among them. One of them (Onnik Krikorian) is much more radical than one of the organisers.

O.K. says: "Well, thinking about #1mar. Have to say that judging from past experience, if opposition can rally 20,000 they have to seize Liberty Square.... This is not to support such actions, but to say playing the 'election game in Armenia' does not work. From 1995-now it hasn't, anyway. #1mar"

The other oppositionist replies that holding the square is not part of the plan tomorrow and for now, it seems like the plan is to hold rallies one after the other as opposed to what Onnik is suggesting which is an Egypt style strategy: "cant agree with U! Our aim is to paralise the regime gathering more&more people after each rally. Tmr will be no clashes! #1mar"

O.K. continues to disagree with him: "Have to say if opposition does rally that number, but avoids possibility of clashes it means that it's not serious & it's also a show. #1mar" Really, if tomorrow is all about boring speeches & a symbolic march, then #1mar is not #egypt or anything else for that matter...Yes, I believe in 'evolved democracy,' but even that doesn't happen until citizens 'dare cross the line' & fight for it... #1mar #11mart... I think recent history in Yerevan (& elsewhere) has shown gathering more people is dependent on 'controlling' a key area. #1mar...Not because you choose clashes, but have to say if you don't 'hold' an area like egypt etc. interest will naturally wane... #1mar"

The oppositionist initially rejects his calls for a violent clash with riot police (fellow Armenians simply doing their job): "we wont even try to take the square tmorow. Its the last phase of our strategy. NOT TMOROW!"... but then he says they will eventually do what O.K. is proposing but lays out the plan in process: "we have given 2 months ultimatum. By that time we'll have our critic mass and then we'll be folowing to your advice #1mar"

[Nare]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Here is the inside scoop on the plan tomorrow (or today, in Yerevan). A conversation between two "revolutionaries" who will be attending tomorrow's demonstrations has surfaced divisions among them. One of them (Onnik Krikorian) is much more radical than one of the organisers.

O.K. says: "Well, thinking about #1mar. Have to say that judging from past experience, if opposition can rally 20,000 they have to seize Liberty Square.... This is not to support such actions, but to say playing the 'election game in Armenia' does not work. From 1995-now it hasn't, anyway. #1mar"

The other oppositionist replies that holding the square is not part of the plan tomorrow and for now, it seems like the plan is to hold rallies one after the other as opposed to what Onnik is suggesting which is an Egypt style strategy: "cant agree with U! Our aim is to paralise the regime gathering more&more people after each rally. Tmr will be no clashes! #1mar"

O.K. continues to disagree with him: "Have to say if opposition does rally that number, but avoids possibility of clashes it means that it's not serious & it's also a show. #1mar" Really, if tomorrow is all about boring speeches & a symbolic march, then #1mar is not #egypt or anything else for that matter...Yes, I believe in 'evolved democracy,' but even that doesn't happen until citizens 'dare cross the line' & fight for it... #1mar #11mart... I think recent history in Yerevan (& elsewhere) has shown gathering more people is dependent on 'controlling' a key area. #1mar...Not because you choose clashes, but have to say if you don't 'hold' an area like egypt etc. interest will naturally wane... #1mar"

The oppositionist initially rejects his calls for a violent clash with riot police (fellow Armenians simply doing their job): "we wont even try to take the square tmorow. Its the last phase of our strategy. NOT TMOROW!"... but then he says they will eventually do what O.K. is proposing but lays out the plan in process: "we have given 2 months ultimatum. By that time we'll have our critic mass and then we'll be folowing to your advice #1mar"

Federate jan ;-))))
Onnik is not revolutionatist, especially radical one ;-)))) He is one of the most tolerant photojurnalists, he is half Armenian, half English, very well known jounrlaist in the world, covers up many issues on Kurds, Georgians, Azeris,etc. He doesn't support any side but expresses his opinion on reality, he used to make wonderful pictures from protests, both ANC and Dashnak girls ;-)