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Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

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  • #11
    Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

    Originally posted by gkv View Post
    On the other hand, the work that you quote mentions Scythia in the following sentence.

    "Then happened it, that the
    Picts came south from Scythia, with long ships, not many; and,
    landing first in the northern part of Ireland, they told the
    Scots that they must dwell there"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia
    These are not my intrpretation but comments at the bottom of the same page, ENDNOTES item 3.

    Can be found by page search ......

    "De tractu Armoricano." -- Bede, "Ecclesiastical History" i.
    I. The word Armenia occurring a few lines above in Bede, it was perhaps inadvertently written by the Saxon compiler of the "Chronicle" instead of Armorica.
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    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
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    • #12
      Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Yeah, sure.... Armenians were first inhabitants of Britain. That explains why there was a British vessel called the "Armenian" used in the battle for Baku in WW1.
      No, it's just 'Armenia' was a distorted term used to describe Brittany. Long story short, when the Anglo-Saxon chronicles refer to 'Armenia' they aren't referring to Hayastan.
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      • #13
        Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        So I'll ask again. What evidence do you have?
        Please stop asking such childish questions. Do you really know that little about this subject? I'm not about to teach someone his A-B-Cs, you should have passed that stage of your education long ago.
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        • #14
          Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          These are not my intrpretation but comments at the bottom of the same page, ENDNOTES item 3.

          Can be found by page search ......
          Yes I saw that when I looked up the material. I question the relevance of the comment.

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          • #15
            Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            Please stop asking such childish questions. Do you really know that little about this subject? I'm not about to teach someone his A-B-Cs, you should have passed that stage of your education long ago.
            Please stop posting ridiculous statements. If you want to pollute the internet with Bell in the Hat stories, go to a Turkish forum.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #16
              Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              You can carbon-date organic material found in-situ during excavations - such as material found around the edges of whatever pit was originally dug to support the stones, or from man-made objects associated with the site like bone or wooden tools or burials or rubbish pits. Much of the history of Stonehenge has been understood because of this sort of carbon-dating, and it has revealed that there were many older henges on the same site before its current appearance was reached. I don't thing any investigations of that sort has happened at Karahunge - so not only do we not know anything specific about its date, we do not know if its current form evolved over time or was a result of a single building period.

              There is thought to have been another Karahunge-type monument located in the mountains to the southwest of Dogubayazit, overlooking Ararat. Only there all of the stones have been moved and reused as gravestones or have been disturbed by treasure hunters. Some of these are stones with holes through them like Karahunge that the crazy Noah's ark hunters claim are "anchor stones".

              It isn't really correct to talk about "Armenians" in a 2000 or 3000BC context. There were no Armenians 5000 years ago.
              Ah yes, the other stuff at the site! Of course...
              I think the scientist they refer to in the video dated it by Earth's precession and the positions of celestial bodies in the sky. Perhaps they haven't been granted permission to dig? I don't really know anything about this beyond what's presented in the video.



              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              You are unknowingly embarassing yourself by asking such a question. It is not correct to talk about "Armenians" in a 2000 or 3000BC context.
              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              So I'll ask again. What evidence do you have?
              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Please stop asking such childish questions. Do you really know that little about this subject? I'm not about to teach someone his A-B-Cs, you should have passed that stage of your education long ago.
              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Please stop posting ridiculous statements. If you want to pollute the internet with Bell in the Hat stories, go to a Turkish forum.
              Oh FFS, come on! He's saying that Armenia didn't exist that long ago, ergo it's incorrect to call those people "Armenians" per se. I believe first mention of Armenia was ~500BC? And people accuse me of having an ego I can't set aside... sheesh! Instead of repeating yourselves when there's clearly a lack of common understanding, try clarifying!

              Btw Kanada, that's kind of a big point to miss when it's hinted at that directly, especially if you consider yourself strong in the critical thinking arena. I say this playfully and only because you often accuse me (albeit not at all jokingly) of being brainwashed and incapable of original thought.
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              • #17
                Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                Oh FFS, come on! He's saying that Armenia didn't exist that long ago, ergo it's incorrect to call those people "Armenians" per se. I believe first mention of Armenia was ~500BC? And people accuse me of having an ego I can't set aside... sheesh! Instead of repeating yourselves when there's clearly a lack of common understanding, try clarifying!

                Btw Kanada, that's kind of a big point to miss when it's hinted at that directly, especially if you consider yourself strong in the critical thinking arena. I say this playfully and only because you often accuse me (albeit not at all jokingly) of being brainwashed and incapable of original thought.
                Just because the idea of "Nation" didn't exist doesn't mean Armenians didn't exist. There are so called "scholars" that don't consider the diaspora as Armenian since they weren't born via ArmenianSSR.

                I don't expect you to understand politics though....
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #18
                  Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                  Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                  You're saying at no point in history, did Armenians occupy that area? I imagine once they get the thing dated, it'll be easy enough to examine evidence of that time period to determine who occupied the region.
                  Here is another article about the Gobekli Tepe site.

                  http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...tml?c=y&page=2

                  On the second page it eloquently says "The gulf that separates us from Gobekli Tepe's builders is almost unimaginable. Indeed, though I stood among the looming megaliths eager to take in their meaning, they didn't speak to me. They were utterly foreign, placed there by people who saw the world in a way I will never comprehend." Yet, if Gobekli Tepe were in the territory of present-day Armenia, Kanadahye would claim its builders to be Armenians! My reply to Kanadahye's question was dismissive becasue the whole premise of his question was so utterly wrong.
                  Last edited by bell-the-cat; 04-07-2011, 10:03 AM.
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                  • #19
                    Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    Just because the idea of "Nation" didn't exist doesn't mean Armenians didn't exist. There are so called "scholars" that don't consider the diaspora as Armenian since they weren't born via ArmenianSSR.

                    I don't expect you to understand politics though....
                    Wow, couple things...
                    (1)U MAD BRO?!



                    (2) We're not talking about politics, so your "shot at me" is out of place.
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                    • #20
                      Re: Armenian Stone Henge Story - CNN

                      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                      Here is another article about the Gobekli Tepe site.

                      http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...tml?c=y&page=2

                      On the second page it eloquently says "The gulf that separates us from Gobekli Tepe's builders is almost unimaginable. Indeed, though I stood among the looming megaliths eager to take in their meaning, they didn't speak to me. They were utterly foreign, placed there by people who saw the world in a way I will never comprehend." Yet, if Gobekli Tepe were in the territory of present-day Armenia, Kanadahye would claim its builders to be Armenians!
                      I'm not so sure about present day, but we'll make sure it's part of future day Armenia.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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