isk inchu voch Hayeren??

[sSsflamesSs]

OK, I can relate with Siggie and a lot of you on here in that my Armenian has also become rusty due to not being exposed to it enough. When I first came to the US, I lived in a state (for 8 years) where we were virtually the only Armenian family and I only spoke Armenian at home. I was not home very often, as I was either at school or at work. I know that this is not an excuse, but hey, it's going to do for now. However, I have made it one of my future goals to improve my Armenian, whether it is by taking lessons from one of my grandparents, or taking classes. One thing is for sure - my kids are going to be fluent in Armenian.

The reason I began my post is because of my grandmother. Year after year, she does not fail to amaze me. She is the most perfect person I have ever met, in all aspects, and I'm not just saying that because she's my grandmother. She came to the US relatively recently and has taken it upon herself to learn English since she now resides in an English-speaking country, although she is going to go back to Armenia. She has started taking classes at a college, and repeatedly brings home certificates of successful completion of the course. She has begun to speak to the point where it is easy to understand what she is saying.

Come on guys, if my grandmother can learn a language, independently (I assure you that she would learn just fine without the class and with some books) at the age of 64, can't you with your fresh minds ready to absorb new info like a sponge?

Knereq vor ays poste Hayeren lezvov chem grel. Ughaki da mi hazar tari ktever.

[Darorinag]

What other languages do you speak?

There's more to it than picking up like a picture book and learning how to say boy, girl, aunt, uncle, airplane, apple, zoo or whatever...

You NEED to use the language to really get it and that's not easy with no one to help you and no one to learn from.

Armenian was my first language and i confess (i'm sure you're gonna comment on this as well) that I don't speak it very often and I havn't spoken it often for a long time. Sadly, I can barely carry on a conversation without having to insert an english word. It's my native language and not practicing it has made me rusty.

You need a combination of practice and study. On one's own vocab and grammar can be studied, but it's with use that it becomes more natural and really stays with you.

I have a great deal of interest in learning another language, but I can't. I don't have the time. I go to school full time and I work full time. I leave the house at 7 am and I get back at like 8 or 9... I don't have the time to devote to it. Would you say that that's not a reasonable explanation?

I would say that is pretty reasonable, given your circumstances. As long as you have the wish to learn the language. And yes, it starts with picture books if need be. There's nothing embarassing about it. The people I am criticizing are those who take active stepts to learn another language (like my cousin who is learning Spanish just cos she wants to, while she doesn't know Armenian...)... And I am talking about people who don't send their kids to Armenian schools because the curricula are not as well implemented as in odar schools. That's a load of BS. There's nothing sweeter than a bunch of kids speaking Armenian and singing the national anthem (and actually understanding the words!) I cannot even begin to understand the reasoning behind taking a kid out of Armenian school. And yes, there are Armenian schools almost anywhere around the world. So quit with the lame excuses. There are many many Armenians in Toronto, for example, who still speak Armenian! They've been here for decades. There is absolutely no reason to abandon one's language!!! Yes, you can deal with the rest of the people in English, I'm not saying you should cut off yourself from the rest of the world and live in your Armenian fantasy world, but there are things that are reasonable, and things that are not. Things that are justifiable, and things that are not.

Besides, I think if you really wanted to learn/improve the language, you could've made the effort to find the time and determination to get somewhere with it. If a 4 year old kid can learn 4 languages simultaneously (along with tons of other stuff), you can learn one language while you're busy with schoolwork, job, etc. Again, it is not impossible. It depends on how much you want it.

[sleuth]

OK, I can relate with Siggie and a lot of you on here in that my Armenian has also become rusty due to not being exposed to it enough. When I first came to the US, I lived in a state (for 8 years) where we were virtually the only Armenian family and I only spoke Armenian at home. I was not home very often, as I was either at school or at work. I know that this is not an excuse, but hey, it's going to do for now. However, I have made it one of my future goals to improve my Armenian, whether it is by taking lessons from one of my grandparents, or taking classes. One thing is for sure - my kids are going to be fluent in Armenian.

The reason I began my post is because of my grandmother. Year after year, she does not fail to amaze me. She is the most perfect person I have ever met, in all aspects, and I'm not just saying that because she's my grandmother. She came to the US relatively recently and has taken it upon herself to learn English since she now resides in an English-speaking country, although she is going to go back to Armenia. She has started taking classes at a college, and repeatedly brings home certificates of successful completion of the course. She has begun to speak to the point where it is easy to understand what she is saying.

Come on guys, if my grandmother can learn a language, independently (I assure you that she would learn just fine without the class and with some books) at the age of 64, can't you with your fresh minds ready to absorb new info like a sponge?

Knereq vor ays poste Hayeren lezvov chem grel. Ughaki da mi hazar tari ktever.

sirumem kez aylandak du imkyanki karkandak lol(ashot ghazaryan)

[sleuth]

isk inch vor meke kardatsele <<perch Zetuntsian>> **ayd esem Soghomone**

Soghomon Tehleryani masin

[xBaron Dants]

Et jisht es asum, Flames Jan.

Mi tegh enk aproom vor iskapes otarneri aztetsootyune shat zoravor e. Bayts vor hayeren chkhosenk VOROVHETEV kartsum enk vor mer hayerene tkaranum e, eli ktakarana, ou mi tegh k'hasnenk vor el Hay chi lini vor hayeren khosi, vorovhetev el iskabes moratsel enk.

Mer hayerene etkan zoravor che vorkan mer dznoghneri hayerene. Et apsosali e, bayts amacheli ban chi: et irakanutyunn e, vori padjarnere shat en ou tarber...SAKAYN, et parzapes mez kachalereloo e vor aveli zoranank ou zoratsnenk mer lezoon. Chem asum vor bararan banank ou kartank. Mer azad jamanaki, ou mer gamki hamemat, pokr kayler arnenk. Orinak es "thread"um hayeren khosink. Ayo, ladineren girerov enk grum, bayts barere mer mtkoom tesnoom enk, yev arevelahaye mi kich sovorum e arevmtahayerene, ou ints bes arevmtahayer, portsum en mi ktor arevelahayeren khosil.

[sSsflamesSs]

Verchaket:

Bla bla bla, stupid 15 or more character limit!

Emil, I want some answers!

[sleuth]

Et jisht es asum, Flames Jan.

Mi tegh enk aproom vor iskapes otarneri aztetsootyune shat zoravor e. Bayts vor hayeren chkhosenk VOROVHETEV kartsum enk vor mer hayerene tkaranum e, eli ktakarana, ou mi tegh k'hasnenk vor el Hay chi lini vor hayeren khosi, vorovhetev el iskabes moratsel enk.

Mer hayerene etkan zoravor che vorkan mer dznoghneri hayerene. Et apsosali e, bayts amacheli ban chi: et irakanutyunn e, vori padjarnere shat en ou tarber...SAKAYN, et parzapes mez kachalereloo e vor aveli zoranank ou zoratsnenk mer lezoon. Chem asum vor bararan banank ou kartank. Mer azad jamanaki, ou mer gamki hamemat, pokr kayler arnenk. Orinak es "thread"um hayeren khosink. Ayo, ladineren girerov enk grum, bayts barere mer mtkoom tesnoom enk, yev arevelahaye mi kich sovorum e arevmtahayerene, ou ints bes arevmtahayer, portsum en mi ktor arevelahayeren khosil.

chishte ev es shatem apsosum vor chen karox grel hayeren tarerov,bays iskapes erb grumes tpavorvume uxexit mej...ev kan barer vor jamanaki entatskum moranumes, vorovhetev hazvadep ogtagortsvox bareren...ev erb kardumes kam grum ,portsumes sharadrel mitket....ev mtki amenamut texerits hankarts haytnvumen moratsvats barer... shat hacheli zgatsume hehehe

[Siggie]

She has started taking classes at a college, and repeatedly brings home certificates of successful completion of the course. She has begun to speak to the point where it is easy to understand what she is saying.

Come on guys, if my grandmother can learn a language, independently (I assure you that she would learn just fine without the class and with some books) at the age of 64, can't you with your fresh minds ready to absorb new info like a sponge?

You grandma fawkin rocks... that's awesome.

the mind doesn't aborb info like a sponge though

[nairi]

Hayeren khoselu masin en khosum bayts hayeren chen khosum. Apreq!

[violette829]

ok. Et SHAT SEKHALA!