Will Armenia get Ararat back from Turkey?

[Anonymouse]

Thank you eek, you rock!!!!

At this moment, I wanted to tell you something; for a nationalist or patriotic person to hate another nation, that person's education is very important at primary school.

At Primary school, yes, many nations were shown us as enemies, but Armenians were not one of them; in fact, what I heard at school at that time was that Armenians attacked the Turks together with the French army, and this was the only sentence in books, which is not a lot nor is it enough to make a nation hate another one.

But I agree with your hatred in that you do not live in the lands your ancestors once lived, although I do not agree with the genocide claims.

Take care everyone,
Hexing

This sort of collective thinking of "nations" hating other "nations" and imposing rigid words to somehow speak for all people within that nation is the problem of all nationalisms. The heavy assumptions carried in such words are often what blur the issues, more than shedding light. It is ipso facto assumed that "nations" represent every individual within that sphere. Thereby to assert "make a nation hate another one" is illusory at best. What constitutes nations? Individual people. And do all individuals think alike? No they do not, unless you live in some Marxist dream of uniformity. Yet somehow, the point between where the individual is and where the nation begins is blurred by nationalisms and other collective creeds. So to assert that "this nation hates that nation" is at best an abuse of words, for it in no way reflects the entire diversity of thought of the individuals that comprise that given body.

[!EEK]

Another thing is I really really do not hate Armenians, and on the contrary love some of you guys. I had a lot of Armenian friends when I was in Istanbul, andd all of them were really great people. Another reason is that you Armenians love your country, which is something great.

Hexing

You know what? I do not doubt your sincerity

[Harut82]

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[!EEK]

Eheheh, this guy is talking about realisme and then he talks about crap! He doesn't even know his history!

1- Arabs never surrendered during the war of the 7 days. THey signed a treaty for the "people's sake".

2- Jews never paid arabs for territory, they just settled there and they are under the Israely military protection

And then again you are bragging about how your people got out from WW2 victorious without having anything to owe to anyone. It's not with this attitude that you'll enter the E.U.

"But we are European!" yeah right, and I'm South American

At least true European countries don't act like 6 yo denying children

Oh and read carefully goey's post:

[XxgoeyxX]

I have to say, I do not know much about this information, that is why I cannot comment about this topic. But I can comment on this statement:

By the way, my purpose is to be realistic, I do not want to disturb any one of you guys, and I do not hate you Armenians although I know that you hate Turks.

There is a difference between hating a Turk and hating what Turks did to Armenians. I dont know if I have ever hated a Turk or anyother human being in my life. But I have hated things humans have done. I do hope you see the difference. So I ask you please, do not put words in our mouths. As a realist you should have already known this. Alright thats all I'm going to say.

[IAmMadAtAC]

Ararat is considered an extinct volcano which means it hasn't erupted in thousands of years and there is no plan for it to erupt in the future far as we can tell either. Massis is also extinct.

[SasunD]

Both of them were Volcanoes at one point in time, however one is dormant and the other one is pretty much 'alive'.

The alive one might erupt sometime....if it doesn't, then a little encouragament will be needed.

[Thai-Samurai]

Ararat is a friggin volcano!!? No one tells me these things. Ai Ai yai

[SasunD]

I think that it is better that we don't have Ararat within our borders...for a couple of reasons...

1. It is better to leave Ararat as an unattainable goal. Why, because that way, it will be a constant reminder to us not to forget what happened, (Turkey is playing the 'time card', they are waiting until we grow tired of protesting, and eventually forget).

2.We don't really need the land, for now...

3.Ararat is bound to erupt sometime...unfortunately for them

[nunechka]

Ararat SHOULD be given back to armenia, but it WONT be given back to armenia for all the reasons we all already know...

i read about ararat in turish news and nato news, its like they think its actually theirs... but we have to keep reminding them that they are LIEING!!!!!!!!!!!

i can only wish we do... from the second floor of my house in armenia, the tv room faces west and Ararat is in clear view...