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  • Originally posted by -Pyunik-
    Ahhh, I can sit there for half a day, sometimes more, just reading over all their articles and resources. The new site design is really good, but not everything is up yet.
    But... there is one thing I read yesterday that made me wonder...
    It claimed that Arminius was in fact an Armenian, and his people, the Cherusci were also Armenian. It claimed they were from the Armenian Highlands, and said something along the lines of "Arminius and his 30,000 Armenian Horseman waged a war against the Romans and defeated them at Teuteburg Forest".
    Bit outrageous no? This is the only source that claims such a thing.
    There was also something about "Armenian blood flowing in the veins of the Bavarian people".


    Touche!
    Obviously it is absurd.
    There are worse myths than that believe me. Overall, I think it's a great site.

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    • Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
      Yes, Crimson I understand you... I have stated many times on this forum that I will marry and Armenian and only an Armenian. Yes, I do feel that will keep the culture but I always want you to understand that this is how I have been raised....I hold strong in what I believe and cannot let go of it...
      Ok...I don't know what else to tell you that I didn't already say in my previous reply. Why do you want me to "always understand this" about you? I'm confused as to why you keep saying this. Marry only Armenian. Who's stopping you? When did I ever tell you not to?? Again, the only reason this debate went as far as it did is because initially, YOU insulted MY views, not the other way around. I didn't go around saying don't marry Armenian, or try to convince you otherwise. I merely said I am not going to force MYself to if I don't fall in love with one, and then have a screwed up family due to such an unhealthy environment. YOU'RE the one that jumped in at that point with the ever so popular amongst Armenians "ESH ES" comment. So why do YOU keep trying to make it sound like I need to understand YOUR view??

      Unrelated to our exchanges, the comments I quoted from you above are a prime example of why me and most Armenian girls would never be..."soul mates." I'll explain it deeper in my next reply to Baron, but one quote sums up my stance fairly easily, and is the exact opposite of what most Armenian girls want to hear: "Beliefs allow the mind to cease functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing."

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      • Originally posted by Crimson Glow
        Ok...I don't know what else to tell you that I didn't already say in my previous reply. Why do you want me to "always understand this" about you? I'm confused as to why you keep saying this. Marry only Armenian. Who's stopping you? When did I ever tell you not to?? Again, the only reason this debate went as far as it did is because initially, YOU insulted MY views, not the other way around. I didn't go around saying don't marry Armenian, or try to convince you otherwise. I merely said I am not going to force MYself to if I don't fall in love with one, and then have a screwed up family due to such an unhealthy environment. YOU'RE the one that jumped in at that point with the ever so popular amongst Armenians "ESH ES" comment. So why do YOU keep trying to make it sound like I need to understand YOUR view??

        Unrelated to our exchanges, the comments I quoted from you above are a prime example of why me and most Armenian girls would never be..."soul mates." I'll explain it deeper in my next reply to Baron, but one quote sums up my stance fairly easily, and is the exact opposite of what most Armenian girls want to hear: "Beliefs allow the mind to cease functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing."

        O jan I didnt mean it in a bad way. My comment wasnt really through you..it was more in general for other people as well. I apologize for the misunderstanding. OOh and yes I did ask for your views..but I thought I share mine too.....sowwieee. I didnt mean to butt in.

        BTW when did I say Esh es to you. I dont feel that way about you..nor did I even think that. Nor did I say it. I love reading your posts...because you give great points about Armenians.

        Are you sure this comment wasnt for gaucho...I dont know...I didnt mean any of it in a bad way.
        Last edited by XxgoeyxX; 12-01-2004, 09:28 PM.
        You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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        • Originally posted by Baron Dants
          Where I disagree with your logic is that you seem certain that you will marry some bimbo Armenian lady. That is not true. There are many, many intelligent and enjoyable Armenian women, and their conversations do not stop at shopping or money (just take a look at some of our female posters).
          That's not what I meant at all. In fact, I would expect far more American bimbos who's lives revolve around shopping and money, than Armenian ones. What I meant was....well....I assume you've seen some of my debates and philosophies on the "matrix" theory and such on this forum by now. Well, I feel the chances of finding an Armenian girl who A. I'm attracted to while she, B. Has the capacity to understand such things, and C. Accepts/agrees with these theories (or is at least open minded about them) is slim to none. I mean, let's just start with an Armenian girl who refused to concretely believe in god. That just eliminated about 80% of the population, I would think. And that was with just one requirement. The list goes on, and is pretty extensive. So...when I say "simple-minded", I don't necessarily mean a "bimbo". What I'm getting at is that most Armenians are just too tradition bound for such thoughts, and refuse to probe and prod at the foundation their existence was built upon, and I just can't tolerate the thought of marrying someone who won't do so, who won't rise above her surroundings and upbringing to look at existence on a grander scale. I've come too far along this path to be dragged down by someone who won't join me on this journey.

          Again, in spite of what I have said, I have never once claimed I've abolished the possibility of marrying an Armenian. The only thing I wanted to get across is that I will not limit my already extremely slim chances of marrying to merely Armenian girls. Plus, finding ANY Armenian, let alone a girl...in my age group....that I'd actually be attracted to physically.....and than emotional/mentally....would require a pretty distant move from my current location and life, and I have no intention of restructuring the life I have established here any time soon.

          As for my "cop out" statement, I didn't mean the need of some of you to be with an Armenian itself was a cop out. I meant stupid comments like "if you don't marry Armenian, you're not fulfilling your obligation" are cop outs, because the roots of our problems go deeper than this silly little statement, and have not been eradicated by keeping within the race/ethnicity.

          And you can bet your sweet ass, whoEVER I marry (if I do), the kids will learn the language, heritage, history, and culture better than half the kids coming from those "100% pure" Armenian families. This is certainly a prerequisite for any female if the relationship is going to work. If she doesn't agree, or doesn't feel like getting involved/participating, she can take a hike. Anyone that knows me (yes, even the white yuppies) knows it's as important to me as the "believe in nothing" philosophy, so there's no room for compromise, here.

          Better understanding, Baron Timberlake?

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          • Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
            O jan I didnt mean it in a bad way. My comment wasnt really through you..it was more in general for other people as well. I apologize for the miss understand. OOh and yes I did ask for your views..but I thought I share mine too.....sowwieee. I didnt mean to butt in.

            BTW when did I say Esh es to you. I dont feel that way about you..nor did I even think that. I love reading your posts...because you give great points about Armenians.

            Are you sure this comment wasnt for gaucho...I dont know...I didnt mean any of it in a bad way.
            Goey: It is I that owes the apology. I subscribed to the one action I despise: Jumping to conclusions. When I read the comments, they were so in tune to what she was saying, that I automatically thought they were Gaucho's. I should have known there was far too much credit being handed out for my comments to be her post. Sorry!!!

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            • lol @ Baron Timberlake! (My hair is not as short now though).

              And yes, not much more to add. Both our positions are quite clear.

              I completely understand your point of view......though deep down, I'm hoping you come across that one Armenian girl of your dreams...

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              • Originally posted by Crimson Glow
                Goey: It is I that owes the apology. I subscribed to the one action I despise: Jumping to conclusions. When I read the comments, they were so in tune to what she was saying, that I automatically thought they were Gaucho's. Sorry!!!

                LOll...no no I am glad everything is cleared up. I just wanted to give you my point of view...that is all.
                You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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                • wait...goey is female?

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                  • what man would have the name goey??? it sounds girly... LOL! anywho i am glad you all are not fighting anymore... i was getting worried...

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                    • Originally posted by nunechka
                      what man would have the name goey??? it sounds girly... LOL! anywho i am glad you all are not fighting anymore... i was getting worried...

                      haha no one was fighting it was just a misunderstading. With Hayq as well. he just thought I was being a jerk to him when I wasnt. No worries. and thanks Nune..I miss you!
                      You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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