Gene-Splicing and Armenians

[Tigranes]

There is a not so fine line between insecurity and what Tigranes is saying. We all know the feeling of having to explain just who or what an Armenian is. But one should not, because of that insecurity, dismiss anybody who doesn't make his job easier as non-Armenian, or non-pure Armenian. Heck, he even said that he cannot "alienate" me because I am fair skinned. So if I were an Armenian with darker complexion, he and his Aryan friends would "alienate" me, ironically in the name of patriotism. There is this eternal longing for being the "brothers" of the Russians, or the Greeks or whoever. But notice how it is mostly Armenians, and not the Russians or the Greeks, who refer to the other group as "brothers". One day, we'll have to just wake up and see that the only brothers we have our within our community. Everybody else is just a friend....and friendships can be temporary.

There's my point again, you, just like many turks may have the genes, but deep down in your heart you're still just another carpet making, rice eating sandnigger.

When you morons run out of excuses you go back to using "skin complexion" bs when I said numerous times that pigmentation has nothing to do with race. White is not white (color).

Greeks are the same people as Armenians. The relationship with Greeks and Armenians is the same as the relationship between Slavic or Germanic nationalities. Same origins and even the language was the same (Greco-Armenian) before splitting to Greek and Armenian (Gray & Atkinson).

You last comment about isolation reeks with judenschwein...and I'm the fascist

[xBaron Dants]

Tekeyan should not be on that list lol Dream on.
Levon Shant ok.
Never herad of the other two.

Most "Polsahays" are just turks.

More lies.
Karas is Armenian dummy. It's short for karogh es, ignoramus.
Davay is not considered an Armenian word and is not used by ANYONE over 20, and the kids that do sue it do so only in the streets as slang, as opposed to your so called "intellectuals" using arab words with every second word.
Russian is an IE language in any case, all IE words have the same root.

The Russians who are "killing" those scum are doing a favor to us. It's mostly gang violence anyway. I would kill them myself. They are filthy illegal alien criminals that dress and smell like gypsies and sell drugs to kids. Amen to that.

They weren't tourists. They lived in Yerevan, at the two dozen that I saw acted like they're in their sheikhs backyard.

Shahan Shahnoor is one of the most controversial and brilliant Armenian authors ever. Antranig Dzaroogian was the editor of the Nayiri literary journal, and a brilliant critic of the Armenian political parties.

So, slang is allowed in Armenia, but not in the Diaspora? Iiiiiiiinteresting. You have not read anything from the Diaspora, by the way. Making assumptions would be pardonable if you were at least making the right ones.

The IE excuse you give is just bull. Using that logic, why do you hate Arabs? We all come from the same root anyways. And explain the use of the words "badrjan" and "banidor" (or something like that) that is used frequently in Armenia. I always called those smpoog and lolig...

Bolsahays are turks...once again, a brilliant comment by a brilliant man. Hagop Baonian, Hagop Oshagan, Taniel Varoojan, Siamanto, Nahabed Rousinian, shall I go on?

Oh, and your last comments about the illegal alien Armenians that all deserve to die have led me to conclude that there is no use talking to you.

[CatWoman]

little do YOU know that the only reason they do that is cuz your so-called "pure" and best and awesomest and greatest Armenians from Haiastan have killed our name in places like Glendale. just read the LA Times or watch the news. or ask the police department.
to the point that when you tell someone you're Armenian in the San Fernando Valley, they automatically assume that you steal, your kids get in fights with mexican gangs on weekends and you max out 35 credit cards and then file for bankruptcy.

Agreed, but wasn't sure if I should post that, lol! Plus, many of those "pure" Armenians speak Russian and introduce themselves as Russians too, so it's not just diasporans doing that! Honestly I've never seen a lebanese or persian Armenian speak arabic or farsi but I've seen many "pure" Armenians who speak Russian to one another!

[xBaron Dants]

Agreed, but wasn't sure if I should post that, lol! Plus, many of those "pure" Armenians speak Russian and introduce themselves as Russians too, so it's not just diasporans doing that! Honestly I've never seen a lebanese or persian Armenian speak arabic or farsi but I've seen many "pure" Armenians who speak Russian to one another!

Yes, but you see, that's alright, because Russian is an Indo-European language, and so is Armenian...so you see, our culture remains strong this way... Other acceptable languages would be French, Greek or..wait a minute, Hindi or Farsi!

No, I don't get it either, but some people definitely see a logic there.

[Crimson Glow]

it's amazing how different people think!!!
did you just SERIOUSLY ask that?
force yourself into a disfunctional relationship???
no.. you know what?... go and "fall in love" with a chinatsee chic cuz she's "tight"...
that'll be a "perfect fit"...
megha asdoodzo. TOON AL ESH ESS yegher!

*sighs* Time for another spoon-feeding the meaning session.....

In other words, my simple minded friend, if you don't happen to fall in love with an Armenian, you'd have to FORCE yourself into it according to a large portion of the members on this forum (for the noble deed of "saving our ethnicity"), which would only create and advocate a dysfunctional environment/family. Because anything less wouldn't be..."Armenian of you"...

Oh, and thank you for proving my other point about why marrying Armenian does not gaurantee us coming any closer to preserving our culture.....

your so-called "pure" and best and awesomest and greatest Armenians from Haiastan have killed our name in places like Glendale. just read the LA Times or watch the news. or ask the police department. to the point that when you tell someone you're Armenian in the San Fernando Valley, they automatically assume that you steal, your kids get in fights with mexican gangs on weekends and you max out 35 credit cards and then file for bankruptcy.

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And what are you babbling about with the Chinatsee crap? Who the hell (other than Thai) said they wanted a Chinatsee? Man, you people and your constant over exaggeration and putting words in peoples' mouths when you get offended.. Please, if you can't attack the point legitimately, and have to resort to infantile insults, stop responding. You're making baby Jesus cry!

[Crimson Glow]

Ooooooh, I see. So what you're saying is if I was born and raised in California, I would suddenly somehow find Armenian women attractive, and be able to tolerate their traditional lifestyle and simple-mindedness. I'm sorry, but I'm sure you'll forgive me for not initially understanding you were implying such an absurd theory. In fact, that sounds down right scary. Almost sounds like a brainwashed cult.

On a quick side-note: I'm not going into what I think of the concept of..."love", or what I think of people who claim to be in love. We went into this on another thread a while back, and I'm not going to raise the issue again here, but suffice it to say, it's beyond your realm of comprehension. You made this evident through profound phrases like "'oh....but I love her' kinda crap".

And yes, keep ignoring the fact (whenever it hurts your argument) that you yourself just pointed out how desolate and disgraceful your..."pure" Armenians can be. Nice to know I could be looked down upon by others just by announcing I'm Armenian over there (the main reason I have changed my mind about moving to Cali - I've heard/read this WAY too often). I'll take people going "Ar-what?" when I tell them I'm Armenian, over "oh....so how long is your rap sheet?"

And the absurdity continues with the BS you spew about assimilation. First of all, assimilating into non English speaking nations would suddenly somehow make them English speaking? I'd like a logical explaination of how the world would become English speaking through assimilation. If not, why are you comparing being raised in America to other nations becoming English speaking shopping malls? Secondly, the "urban", "yuppy", "suburban", or whatever you want to call them cities are present, whether you assimilate or not. That will always be part of any capitalist nation. Don't think for a second that Armenia wouldn't be in on it, too, if it had a flourishing enough economy supported by big spending. Lastly, and most pertinent to the defecation of your argument, you know damn well those "100% Armenians" over there assimilate. Problem is, it's into the worst aspects of American society possible. Either the "my Mercedes is more expensive then the Jonesians", or "ara ova asi? I'll kill you!" So go ahead and marry out of obligation, and raise your FUBU wearing, Russian swearing, conviction record carrying, pure bread hard core Armenians! Keep up the assimilation..err...Armenianism. By the way, where are the 100% Armenian parents of those fine lads out there? I wanted to thank them for "keeping the culture alive", and adding to the Armenian world population....and making baby Jesus cry!

[Hayq]

Russians and Armenians have no cultural link, just because we speak an Indo-European tongue does not make us some kind of brothers.

I really do not understand why Russians would be this way to Armenians. See, another thing is, I have heard accounts where they do nothing to Blacks and Asians, but they only tend to pick on those whom have caucasian features (and many Armenians do have these features). Perhaps it is old soviet jealousy, as the people from the Caucasus excelled in all fields, especially love, and I am presuming this was out of Jealousy. However I am just guessing.

Here is the thing, I really do not care about Armenians today, it seems like we are hanging by a thread to our culture. My concern is with Armenians in the future. See, many forumers here want a good life for themselves, and they tend to look at the future too much, and seem to be very selfish. Our forefathers died to stay Armenian, now because we want to live a better life for ourselves, we are going to sell out the blood spilled for an Asian or Negro that will provide us a more comfortable life? Come on guys, there are not that many Armenians, we are an ancient race who has been around for 4.000 years! We have a goal to keep our race alive, we can not take the chance of mixing because there are merely 10mln of us World Wide!

If you can not find a perfect girl to be Armenian, please, do everything you possibly can to teach your child and spouse about our heritage and culture and language. Take your kids to Armenian Saturday school.

I understand most of the people on this forum who want to marry outside the race, truth is, you might have a better life than marrying an Armenian. However, you have to take into consideration that you are not only marrying for your personal pleasure (or a tax break) but for your children. A man and a woman marry to have children and start a family, make sure your kids are Armenian, or you might as well be commiting genocide on yourself.

Just my opinions.

[XxgoeyxX]

Russians and Armenians have no cultural link, just because we speak an Indo-European tongue does not make us some kind of brothers.

I really do not understand why Russians would be this way to Armenians. See, another thing is, I have heard accounts where they do nothing to Blacks and Asians, but they only tend to pick on those whom have caucasian features (and many Armenians do have these features). Perhaps it is old soviet jealousy, as the people from the Caucasus excelled in all fields, especially love, and I am presuming this was out of Jealousy. However I am just guessing.

Here is the thing, I really do not care about Armenians today, it seems like we are hanging by a thread to our culture. My concern is with Armenians in the future. See, many forumers here want a good life for themselves, and they tend to look at the future too much, and seem to be very selfish. Our forefathers died to stay Armenian, now because we want to live a better life for ourselves, we are going to sell out the blood spilled for an Asian or Negro that will provide us a more comfortable life? Come on guys, there are not that many Armenians, we are an ancient race who has been around for 4.000 years! We have a goal to keep our race alive, we can not take the chance of mixing because there are merely 10mln of us World Wide!

If you can not find a perfect girl to be Armenian, please, do everything you possibly can to teach your child and spouse about our heritage and culture and language. Take your kids to Armenian Saturday school.

I understand most of the people on this forum who want to marry outside the race, truth is, you might have a better life than marrying an Armenian. However, you have to take into consideration that you are not only marrying for your personal pleasure (or a tax break) but for your children. A man and a woman marry to have children and start a family, make sure your kids are Armenian, or you might as well be commiting genocide on yourself.

Just my opinions.

I do enjoy reading your post hayq. However,I must disagree with this statement. "understand most of the people on this forum who want to marry outside the race, truth is, you might have a better life than marrying an Armenian." Only because it goes both ways.

Now I do hope you dont call me an arse again...


Crimson you always seem to show tough love. But I do hope you havnt forgotten the great things about Armenians. I know you havnt. But I guess I'm always to optimistic about this subject. And its sad to say many Armenians have become what you described. Very sad indeed.

[steelers10]

Russians and Armenians have no cultural link, just because we speak an Indo-European tongue does not make us some kind of brothers.

I really do not understand why Russians would be this way to Armenians. See, another thing is, I have heard accounts where they do nothing to Blacks and Asians, but they only tend to pick on those whom have caucasian features (and many Armenians do have these features). Perhaps it is old soviet jealousy, as the people from the Caucasus excelled in all fields, especially love, and I am presuming this was out of Jealousy. However I am just guessing.

Here is the thing, I really do not care about Armenians today, it seems like we are hanging by a thread to our culture. My concern is with Armenians in the future. See, many forumers here want a good life for themselves, and they tend to look at the future too much, and seem to be very selfish. Our forefathers died to stay Armenian, now because we want to live a better life for ourselves, we are going to sell out the blood spilled for an Asian or Negro that will provide us a more comfortable life? Come on guys, there are not that many Armenians, we are an ancient race who has been around for 4.000 years! We have a goal to keep our race alive, we can not take the chance of mixing because there are merely 10mln of us World Wide!

If you can not find a perfect girl to be Armenian, please, do everything you possibly can to teach your child and spouse about our heritage and culture and language. Take your kids to Armenian Saturday school.

I understand most of the people on this forum who want to marry outside the race, truth is, you might have a better life than marrying an Armenian. However, you have to take into consideration that you are not only marrying for your personal pleasure (or a tax break) but for your children. A man and a woman marry to have children and start a family, make sure your kids are Armenian, or you might as well be commiting genocide on yourself.

Just my opinions.

I too enjoyed readng this and understand, but I am not going to limit my options. Maybe I'll find the perfect Armenian girl or maybe not. All I am saying is to think about everything before you do it.

[steelers10]

I agree.

"To each his own"

It all depends on how you are raised. For me I don't feel comfortable around certain Armenians. It may have something to do with the fact that I am a fourth generation full blooded Armenian-American. I just want people to know that there are choices and to follow the path that the individual thinks is best. We all can have different opinions.