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    As a 25 year old man living in Chicago I am starting to see a growing trend in our American/ Armenian community. Armenian men treating Armenian women like trash. As I clicked search on the other part of this site to see what other Armenians lived in Illinois I was disgusted to see that not only where the women dressed very provoctively but the men paying tribute to them with disgusting comments. My plea to you as people from a great culture is to at least stop the comments. You are helping to produce Armenian women with no self respect and values. You are also helping to breed future generations of men who will abuse and devalue women.

    I am open to discussion and if anyone else is going through a similiar understanding let me know

    Me

  • #2
    Originally posted by sculpter21
    As a 25 year old man living in Chicago I am starting to see a growing trend in our American/ Armenian community. Armenian men treating Armenian women like trash. As I clicked search on the other part of this site to see what other Armenians lived in Illinois I was disgusted to see that not only where the women dressed very provoctively but the men paying tribute to them with disgusting comments. My plea to you as people from a great culture is to at least stop the comments. You are helping to produce Armenian women with no self respect and values. You are also helping to breed future generations of men who will abuse and devalue women.

    I am open to discussion and if anyone else is going through a similiar understanding let me know

    Me

    I completely agree. However, this is not a new phenomenon. In Armenia when girls would DARE go out in shorts even or mini skirts, guys would turn into complete dogs, wistling and making comments. The comments weren't dirty, but shovenistic. You know our "ancient" mentallity: Women are either saints or xxxxxs. In American-Armenian communities, I think the influence of rap culture is evident in how such comments have become dirtier and tawdrier. The same cultural elements are negatively influencing how our girls behave and portray themselves, including what they wear. I agree though those of us having kids must do our best to raise REAL men, who don't disrespect women and don't cheat on them and REAL women who haven't completely lost all bounderies and limits and forgotten that they are Armenian women.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by karoaper
      I completely agree. However, this is not a new phenomenon. In Armenia when girls would DARE go out in shorts even or mini skirts, guys would turn into complete dogs, wistling and making comments. The comments weren't dirty, but shovenistic. In American-Armenian communities, I think the influence of rap culture is evident in how such comments have become dirtier and tawdrier. The same cultural elements are negatively influencing how our girls behave and portray themselves, including what they wear. I agree though those of us having kids must do our best to raise REAL men, who don't disrespect women and don't cheat on them and REAL women who haven't completely lost all bounderies and limits and forgotten that they are Armenian women.
      I agree the rap culture which is not a culture at all but a marketing scam has an influence on the young armenians I hope that our culture will not mirror that of others that value having children out of wedlock and that we will never create songs about supporting armenian baby mamas
      Last edited by sculpter21; 06-26-2005, 06:33 PM.

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      • #4
        well, we live in a society that gave the world the hooters airline. what do we expect? our parents' generation traded in our old world culture to live the big life in america.

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        • #5
          bezjian took the words right outta my mouth. Agreed. That's the price we paid, and we will pay for a long time....our children will be the most affected ones.

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          • #6
            This problem is hardly limited to Armenians, athough I understand your desire to focus on that group. It is sad to see such mentality in men, but the women who dress that way in the first place should be held responsible for that choice. They arent stupid; they know what reaction theyre gonna get perfectly well, and they allow it to happen. Im not saying that they cause it, and the men are not responsible at all, just wanted to point out that both parties play a part here.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by karoaper
              I completely agree. However, this is not a new phenomenon. In Armenia when girls would DARE go out in shorts even or mini skirts, guys would turn into complete dogs, wistling and making comments. The comments weren't dirty, but shovenistic. You know our "ancient" mentallity: Women are either saints or xxxxxs. In American-Armenian communities, I think the influence of rap culture is evident in how such comments have become dirtier and tawdrier. The same cultural elements are negatively influencing how our girls behave and portray themselves, including what they wear. I agree though those of us having kids must do our best to raise REAL men, who don't disrespect women and don't cheat on them and REAL women who haven't completely lost all bounderies and limits and forgotten that they are Armenian women.
              I think more than anything, living under centuries of Muslim rule has had its price and alot of this backwardness is a mentality gained from this Islamic influence. But indeed, this isn't an Armenian only problem, just like the big nose (Jooz and Italians have it too).
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sculpter21
                As a 25 year old man living in Chicago I am starting to see a growing trend in our American/ Armenian community. Armenian men treating Armenian women like trash. As I clicked search on the other part of this site to see what other Armenians lived in Illinois I was disgusted to see that not only where the women dressed very provoctively but the men paying tribute to them with disgusting comments. My plea to you as people from a great culture is to at least stop the comments. You are helping to produce Armenian women with no self respect and values. You are also helping to breed future generations of men who will abuse and devalue women.

                I am open to discussion and if anyone else is going through a similiar understanding let me know

                Me
                this is american culture influence i think because armenian society lives amog other culture they tey to act like them .
                for example if you will live in jerusalem you will act as their armenian society do
                and american culture acting this way and you canot do nothin people are affected by environment they livin this is a fact and this what i think !

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                • #9
                  Sure...blame it on 'American culture'.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bezjian
                    well, we live in a society that gave the world the hooters airline. what do we expect? our parents' generation traded in our old world culture to live the big life in america.
                    LOL

                    I only recently found out there a hooters airline. I saw it by accident in an airport sign (it was: Delta -- go here, Northwest -- go theres, hooters -- straight ahead). I thought it was a joke at first.

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