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September is the Cruelest Month of All: The Destruction of Smyrna, 1922.

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  • #21
    I guess those Greeks just saw the light and converted
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #22
      In a Greek majority island you wouldnt say otherwise, i.e convert by their own will. If Ottomans ever pursued such policy as their state policy, you wouldnt see any Christian in Balkans, Middleast and Anatolia today.

      On the contorary, Ottomans saved eastern Orthodoxy from Catholics.

      Originally posted by Gavur
      I guess those Greeks just saw the light and converted

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      • #23
        Or they would have converted to christianity back when Greeks claimed the island back. But instead they have either be killed or escaped to Anatolia(mainly Izmir and surroundings) to live as muslims.

        Originally posted by Gavur
        I guess those Greeks just saw the light and converted

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        • #24
          How would you treat a Moslem that converted to a different religion hmmm..lets say Chriastanity
          some Moslem countrys hang them
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #25
            This is more like propoganda of 700 club or Pat Robertson.
            Yes there are problems in regarding those but not like the ones they say..

            Originally posted by Gavur
            How would you treat a Moslem that converted to a different religion hmmm..lets say Chriastanity
            some Moslem countrys hang them

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            • #26
              They if stayed could never be trusted again by their community
              under war conditions
              Im sure you can understand
              but some Moslem countrys its always war conditions at least they are led to be;ieve it is
              unfortunatly for religious non-Islams
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #27
                Christians lived in Muslim lands including Muslim heartland Middleast, Palestine, Lubenon and Syria for centuries. Unfortunetly in 20th century things have changed.

                YOu see how things can escalate like those caricature events? I have heard that there were gangs who got ready to burn down Churches in Muslim countries hopefully the conference of islamic countries intervened the Turkish term president, Ihsaneddin Ekmeleddin asked muslim countries to take measure for such burning attempts..

                Originally posted by Gavur
                They if stayed could never be trusted again by their community
                under war conditions
                Im sure you can understand
                but some Moslem countrys its always war conditions at least they are led to be;ieve it is
                unfortunatly for religious non-Islams

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                • #28
                  There are crazyier Moslems then Turks I know
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TurQ
                    RUDO

                    I love Izmir too, I have attended secondary school and a year in high school there. I lived in guzelyali and lioved it a lot.
                    Unfortunetly the big cities are not taken care of properly including Izmir. I have saw old Izmir picture, it is really lovely.
                    Yes you are right.Old İzmir(Smyrna) was more lovely then today's İzmir.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Gavur
                      Greek army came in to protect the greeks in Asia minor after countless massacres by the Turks thats the fact Jacq!

                      These Turks
                      When Brits and the Americans gave them the ok went in to Smyrna to cleans any evidence of the Greeks and the Armenians dominance in that city
                      Yes I think like you.Turks didn't want to see Minorities' evidence in Smyrna.They wanted to make Smyrna a Turkish city with full of bad-planned buildings.

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