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Indeed, the Armenian Genocide was a dry-run for the Jewish Genocide, as Barry Chamish himself also said and wrote about. Read the details in
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Microsoft Ranks Kemal Ataturk Among Dictators
The world’s software giant Microsoft listed the founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, among dictators such as Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong in the German 2006 version of its Encarta Encyclopedia published annually, Turkish Zaman daily reports.
Encarta used mostly by the school-age children and renewed every each year informs: "Ataturk, born on the 12th of March 1881, and from the age of five attended military school at the center of anti-Turkish, Greek and Slav nationalism in Monastery and Thessalonica. He began studying at Istanbul Military Academy and graduated as brigadier in 1905.""All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) -
Was the English the father of Turkey?
24 pages of some interesting insights and truths about the "Victory" of Turkey after WW1-Gav.
The Struggle Between Islam and Kufr
And Turks are still thanking them for it."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
(1881-1938)
An able World War I general who commanded the forces against the Allies at Gallipoli. A reformer and postwar founder of modern Turkey, disliked by some who see him as an enemy of Islam.
"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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W.B.!
Bulgarian"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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I don't need to be convinced, do you?
FYI Ohaness, we probably ban more Armenians on this site than we do Turks. However, our decisions on banning doesn't have anything to do with wether a member is Turkish or Armenian or Tasmanian, we don't care who you are. EVERYONE needs to obey the forum rules, which members are required to read before posting - or they will be in danger of banning - simple as that.
Do a search for Deborah Lipstadt or International Association of Genocide Scholars (I think user 'Hellektor' posted it) and you will find an article written by a non-Armenian Genocide expert discussing how 'creating the idea that there are two sides to a story or somehow there should be a forum for denial' is wrong.
Furthermore, the purpose of this site isn't to convince people, thats what the 1000's of books on the subject are for. If you haven't any knowledge of the Armenian Genocide, this is probably the wrong place to start, grab a book (preferably an un-biased eyewitness account in the beginning) and read it. Once you have some background, then come here and lets discuss it. Thats a little more in line with what this site is all about.
HovikComment
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Amen brotherOriginally posted by HovikGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Spotlight Reviews:Turkification of Gobineau by Speros, Jr. Vryonis
Clio Meets the Grey Wolf
Reviewer: Alyssa A. Lappen (Earth)
The most remarkable information in this book--and there is a great deal of remarkable information here--is the revelation that Kemalism established the "Turkification of Gobineau's theory of the racial, and therefore civilizational, superiority of the Aryans."
Ataturk established the Turkish Historical Thesis (Turk Tarih Tezi) and the Sun Theory of Languages (Gunes Dil Teorisi). The former holds that the history of Turkey as known today doesn't consist merely of Ottoman history, but is much older and in fact dispersed culture to all nations, including the Greek classical nation, the Hittites, the Chinese, the Romans and all European nations. The latter holds that Turkish was the first language ever spoken by humans, and is the foundation for all other languages, be they classical Greek and Latin, Romance languages or even Anglo-Saxon tongues.
By way of these theories, the Turkish educational system still, today, teaches that Turkish society is supremacist, and that it is from Turkish history and language that all other culture and languages flow. One can according to these theories allow that there was, for example, a beautiful Greek civilization, but at the same time, one holds that this was not independent, but a derivative of the Turkish culture and history.
What is even more astounding is that there are those historians, including Bernard Lewis, who make apology for this supremacist line.
Since the European Union is now considering whether Turkey should join its ranks, it would be highly beneficial for all European citizens--but especially European officials--to read this short but powerful book. To the extent that the racist teachings exposed herein are still taught today in Turkey, and are still regarded as truth by the mass of educated Turks, this book is a warning against Turkish admission to the EU.
--Alyssa A. Lappen
By a reader
The author, a well known scholar, provides an excellent analysis of how the modern Turkish state, ever since its founding in 1923, has worked intensively, though incompetently, on distorting history.
This is done by reviewing a recent book written in French by the assistants of the late president Ozal of Turkey, in order to convince the Europeans that Turkey should be allowed to enter the European Union.
Mr. Ozal, turned historian, attempts to persuade the readers of his book of such things as: all Greek history is in fact Turkish history; all history stems from the Turks and could not be possible without the contribution of the Turks; all language stems from Turkish etc.
In the second part of the book, Dr. Vryonis examines how the Turkish state is buying influence in the United States by bankrolling the work of corrupt American scholars to parrot such "theories" as those in Mr. Ozal's book and by endowing chairs of Turkish Studies in American universities.
The chief characteristic of Turkish civilization when it comes into contact with other civilizations is that an orgy of taking and usurpation develops -- that is the Turks taking from the other civilization. The current book -- superbly documented with Turkish as well as international sources -- shows that this cultural tendency to usurp and appropriate extends not just to material wealth and to the genes of the forcibly Turkified populations, but -- beyond that -- to the history of the peoples the Turks come into contact with.
In our times this tendency is manifested by the Turkish state denying the identity of 20% of its population which is Kurdish and by its insistence to refer to them as "mountain Turks" while prohibiting public speech or publications in Kurdish.
The book should be read by all, but especially by those who believe that Turkey is a Western nation. Distortion of history and manipulation of national identity is not a particularly western value."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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Shame on you Horizon - you ignorant know-nothing. Anti-semitic conspiracy types like you have no real clue or understanding of real history. Stop embarrasing us and yourself.Comment
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Agree. The Armenian Genocide is not a zionist conspiracy. The true culprit is a combination or pan-Turanism and islamo-fascism. Some people just want to blame Jews for everything and anything under the sun.Originally posted by 1.5 million View PostGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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