Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

[AlphaPapa]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Sure both us and blacks have suffered in many ways but thats life. You pick up and move on instead of dwelling on tragic events which both blacks and armenians do. If you can get justice then great if not, then you dont make it your excuse, you move on!

Well there are political gains to be made by living in the past, and playing on peoples emotions...not from those who did the wrong, but from those who you will exploit (emotionally/mentally) while selling yourself as their redeemer.

I'd rather see Armenians move on past the genocide and accept our own failings, so we can move towards the future. We don't like to talk about Armenian on Armenian abuse (of immigrants to the US in the early 20th century), or the murder of Leon Tourian, or the cold war battles (CIA/KGB) by Armenian communists, socialists and Tashnags), Armenian-on-Armenian violence during the genocide, or the sex-slave trade problem. The Genocide is a distraction to our REAL problems, and our socio-political maturity. Those who fight the hardest for the genocide are the ones who don't want to see our community truly blossom and bear fruit.

Unlike blacks, who accept inter-marriage easily, we Armenians are a dying orchard, and it is because of our pride and prejudice.

[Armanen]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Armenians are an ethnic group, blacks are a whole race, they can afford to inter marry with other races and the black race will not be threatened.
Armenians are few, if we became more tolerant of inter-marriage, especially inter racial, then what the hell would be the point of having an independent Armenia, or even calling oneself Armenian?

The demographic factor is a big deal when we are talking about Armenians.

[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Of course there is the demography problem of Armenia and Armenians in diaspora. We have to work on this, but this is the top of the iceberg. There are other important levels : houses, social security, psycho-sociology, education, schools, etc, etc.

Another time also I'll try to analyze and write about this inter racial question, but it is not the priority. The important priority is the (Armenian) family : how to communicate Armenian cultural and affective values from one generation to the other.

I know, you know families with both Armenian parents who do not, who have not, who did not succeed this inter generation communication. This does not deal with racial or genetic matters.

Armenians have an old historical and cultural experience and they did meet black skin people thanks to Ethiopia : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...iopia/a146.htm - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...historique.htm - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...liographie.htm

Now which is important is to valorize our diasporic situation and to have rich, worthy relations with other peoples : French, British, Italian, American, etc., etc... [...and even the Turkish people]. We have the chance to have a very valuable historical-cultural capital : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ays/63home.htm

As regarding relations of Armenians with African Americans, you have my former messages. I have just had a new idea which can enrich and help Armenia. It is to present African American Litterature to Armenia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_literature

Look, how late we are. This Wikipedia page does not exist in Armenian language ! It is important to organize a conference on African American Literature in Yerevan, to invite Maya Angelou (we have to hurry, she is aged), Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, etc, etc.

There is a ready made topic : "Jean Toomer of the Harlem Renaissance and Gurjieff in France" http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...eff_toomer.htm

Come on you guys, move on the right direction. Contact your colored teachers, professors, collegues, Congressmen and explain such a project. First begin with your town, your highschool, your college, your library, etc. ,etc.

Please, contact Dr Aram Goudsouzian of Memphis University :

http://www.aztagdaily.com/interviews/Goudsouzian.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Memphis

Please contact the Cultural Attache of the American Embassy of Armenia and the American University of Yerevan.

Best regards from Paris (France). Nil.

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/0en/cblacks_armenians/mlk_armenians.htm

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[Armanen]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Sometimes I don't know whether to take you seriously or not, CRDA.

[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Sometimes I don't know whether to take you seriously or not, CRDA.

LOL,formely for decades, in an other life, I have been an Application Engineer between the Design Department and the Research-Developpment Department. I have been also in Marketting Technical Support (Numerically Controlled Machine-Tools).

My analyzing (automatic) approach is in order to applications.

In this case, relations of African Americans with Armenians or Armenia are on several levels :
- cultural : jazz, arts, literature, sports, etc.
- symbolic and ethics : MLK, Malcom X, Archibishop Tutu, Ecumenical Relations with African/American Churches
- US politics : Black Caucus in Congress
- international diplomacy (Africa & west Indies) >>> http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...tie/blacks.htm

Nil (Paris)
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[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

Jazz Singer George Benson will be in Yerevan next November 12 :

http://georgebenson.com/?page_id=9

I am from France. I do not know him except he is African American :
hhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&um=1&q=georges%20benson&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Benson

I'll add George Benson to Kim Prevost and Juddy Bady : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...de_usajazz.htm

Nil
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[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

- Racism on the web - Michelle Obama, First Lady of the USA, presented as a monkey on Google !

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=michelle+obama+monkey&aq=1z&oq=Michelle+Obama&aqi=g1g-z3g6

It is uncredible, this is not only an offense, this is a DENIAL OF HUMANITY of more than 10 per cent of the Amercain People. There must be a law to stop all these crimes on the web.

DENIAL OF HUMANIY for the AFRICAN AMERICANS and DENIAL for the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE ?

BOTH HISTORICAL CONSEQUENCES of GREED :

- Greed for money of Slave Trade : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ns/0home_c.htm

AND

- Greed for Diplomatic "Honorability" after having captured land, women and children of indigenous Armenians for centuries under Ottoman domination : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad..._devchirme.htm - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...liographie.htm

Language tools pages for translation from French into English : http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en - Dictionary : http://dictionnaire.tv5.org/dictionn...n=2&mot=&che=1

Nil (Paris)
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[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

From the list : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Armenian_Americans
I found Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Avakian

Bob Avakian has been much in relation with African Americans Liberation Movements ! He surely will be interested with my pages :

- on Shared Memories between Armenians and African Americans http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ns/0home_c.htm

- and also on Armenians in the Russian Revolution :

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/0hh/6russia1917photos/liste.htm

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/0hh/6lenin/b00.htm

It would be interesting to know what famous marxist historical individuals thought of Ottomans oppressing and slaughtering the Christian peoples ?

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/6histoire/a_d/20_genocide1915_marxistes.htm

Nil (Paris)
#5912

[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=57696

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

Best regards from Paris (France). Nil

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/4diaspora/3mondial/monde_usa_blacks.htm

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[CRDA-France]

Re: Armenian & African-American Communities : An imperceptable genocidal link ?

The House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee members who are African Americans or Asian Americans :

- Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, D-American Samoa : http://www.house.gov/faleomavaega/

- Donald M. Payne, D-NJ, 10th District : http://www.house.gov/payne/

- Gregory W. Meeks, D-NY, 6th District : http://www.house.gov/meeks/

- Diane E. Watson, D-CA, 33rd District : http://www.house.gov/watson/

- Sheila Jackson Lee, D-TX, 18th District : http://jacksonlee.house.gov/

- Barbara Lee, D-CA, 9th District : http://lee.house.gov/

- David Scott, D-GA, 13th District : http://davidscott.house.gov/

- Keith Ellison, D-MN, 5th District : http://ellison.house.gov/

How did they vote on March 4 ? http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hear...156&show=votes

At fist sight, I see Gregory W. Meeks voted CON, we already know him being pro-turkish.

The other Representatives seem to have voted PRO. There also are some who seemed not to have participated to the vote ?

Nil
http://www.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/ - http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...usa_blacks.htm
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