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Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

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  • may
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Ok May we will let you judge this then.

    TURKISH COURT RULES NOBEL LAUREATE PAMUK CAN BE SUED FOR COMMENTS

    DPA
    GMT 10-7-2009 19:17:40

    Istanbul - Turkey's Supreme Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday that Nobel
    Laureate Orhan Pamuk can be sued for remarks made several years ago
    about the alleged massacres of Armenians and Kurds in during World
    War One, the semi-official Anatolian Agency reported.

    'Thirty-thousand Kurds and a million Armenians have been killed and
    almost nobody dares to mention that, except for me,' Pamuk was quoted
    as saying in a Swiss magazine in 2005.

    Nationalist activists filed suit against Pamuk, saying his remarks
    had insulted them and demanding compensation.

    Although lower courts in Istanbul have twice rejected the case,
    the higher court ruled that the case should be heard again.

    Pamuk, the widely-acclaimed author of 'Snow' and 'My Name is Red,'
    won the Nobel prize in literature in 2006, the first Turkish author
    to do so.

    After he made his comments in 2005, charges were brought against him
    that he had 'insulted Turkishness.' The charges were later dropped
    for technical reasons.
    My judgment: total bullxxxx!

    Did I learn to be tolerant? Did I pass?

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    In a forum full of little Armenian kids, you didn't really expect a satisfying conclusion, did you?
    The only little kid here is you bell. If this forum is beneath you then why do you continue posting here. Lets see we are kids who cannot measure up to a great intellectual like you thus you chose to participate here anyways by insulting us kids. Sounds like someone doesnt have a life but hey here is something that i am sure a great intellectual such as yourself will find pleasure in


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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Ok May we will let you judge this then.

    TURKISH COURT RULES NOBEL LAUREATE PAMUK CAN BE SUED FOR COMMENTS

    DPA
    GMT 10-7-2009 19:17:40

    Istanbul - Turkey's Supreme Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday that Nobel
    Laureate Orhan Pamuk can be sued for remarks made several years ago
    about the alleged massacres of Armenians and Kurds in during World
    War One, the semi-official Anatolian Agency reported.

    'Thirty-thousand Kurds and a million Armenians have been killed and
    almost nobody dares to mention that, except for me,' Pamuk was quoted
    as saying in a Swiss magazine in 2005.

    Nationalist activists filed suit against Pamuk, saying his remarks
    had insulted them and demanding compensation.

    Although lower courts in Istanbul have twice rejected the case,
    the higher court ruled that the case should be heard again.

    Pamuk, the widely-acclaimed author of 'Snow' and 'My Name is Red,'
    won the Nobel prize in literature in 2006, the first Turkish author
    to do so.

    After he made his comments in 2005, charges were brought against him
    that he had 'insulted Turkishness.' The charges were later dropped
    for technical reasons.

    Leave a comment:


  • may
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    Why not? Even though the question seems to be more rhetorical, the idea can still be debated with brand new topics and perhaps even improvement by Turkey's part.
    As a reminder, the first thread under this topic starts with this sentence: "They need to change this culture of violence"

    Hence, at least the initially, topic is more of a racist one, than rhetorical. On the other hand, it sounds like it is asked from a point of a moral judge, or an authority who already has this virtue of being "tolerant"? By the way, who really learned/knows tolerance? Gavur? All Armenians? Some Turks but very very very very very small numbers? U.S.? Europeans?

    Otherwise, I don't mind a topic named "Human right abuses in Turkey" etc. which this topic is actually evolving to. But within this headline: "Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?", thanks, I'll skip. You'll give that tolerance to chose the topic that I want to discuss right?

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  • Federate
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by may View Post
    Case closed!

    Don't need to push this topic up by posting new stuff. Let Turkey/Turks stand alone as THE country/people/nation who cannot learn tolerance.
    Why not? Even though the question seems to be more rhetorical, the idea can still be debated with brand new topics and perhaps even improvement by Turkey's part.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by may View Post
    Case closed!

    Don't need to push this topic up by posting new stuff. Let Turkey/Turks stand alone as THE country/people/nation who cannot learn tolerance.
    In a forum full of little Armenian kids, you didn't really expect a satisfying conclusion, did you?

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by may View Post
    Case closed!

    Don't need to push this topic up by posting new stuff. Let Turkey/Turks stand alone as THE country/people/nation who cannot learn tolerance.
    I am sure they can but they sure as hell try not to.

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  • may
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    So the answer to the question in the title of this thread is no.
    Case closed!

    Don't need to push this topic up by posting new stuff. Let Turkey/Turks stand alone as THE country/people/nation who cannot learn tolerance.

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  • Army
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Even the Prime Minister say 'Kurds'.. However Kurdistan is a different issue, its something like calling for an Azeri state on Armenian lands. Foolish ban anyways.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Hey Army i just wanted to add that you can speak about kurds and utter the word kurdistan as much as you like in armenia and no one will bother you about that either.

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