Chief Rabbi of Israel Recognizes the Armenian Genocide

[phantom]

So your view is "lets leave it to the politicians"? er...I thought it was supposed to be "leave it to the historians"? Oh - but they have all pretty much come out against your ficticious position now haven't they? As have most religious authorities (including Muslim I might add...) Maybe we should conduct a poll among Baboons in zoos - perhaps they will reject this terrible Armenian propoganda...

You took the words right out of my mouth, except that you put it in a much funnier way . When the historians speak, the denialists scream that political views are more important; when the politicians vote to recognize the Genocide as they have in much of Europe, America and Canada, then they scream that the historians are the only valid speakers; when the Religeous leaders speak, then the denialists turn back to the politicians again. When are they going to learn that there is no where to run and hide from the truth?

[Gavur]

Turks
You can run (from the truth)
But you can not hide!

Cassius Clay

[UKTurk]

yes especially Gavur know Turkish very well Turkish is on the way of being global language... Already one day everybody will speak Turkish.and now 300 million people know and talk

Yes your not suppost to spread the word that the Turks are going to slowly take over Iran to unite with Central Asia.

[Hovik]

chief rabbi s commend doesnt go forward from personel thinking.i dont think it will be lawful.politic views are more important then religious..

Perhaps not, but you cannot deny that it is a big step for Israel to take against Turkey - this Rabbi represents the Jewish Faith of Israel, in other words, he has more than a few constituents, don't you think?

I am interested, how does this event make Turks feel? Please tell us how it makes you feel towards Israel?

[Hovik]

Haha yeah the world is going to be Turkish! Good luck with that...

I wonder what your Jewish friends think about their entire nation being subjected to forced Turkification... you Turks'll show them what happens when they allow their religious figures to recognize the Genocide of the Armenian "infidels".

What do you think about yourselves when you tell Armenians that their dreams to have ONLY their HISTORIC HOMELAND back after it was illegally taken from them are just living a big FANTASY, and yet Turks who say they are going to take over the world aren't DREAMING? Sounds pretty retarded doesn't it?

2 words for yah: "Keep Dreaming"

[1.5 million]

You took the words right out of my mouth, except that you put it in a much funnier way . When the historians speak, the denialists scream that political views are more important; when the politicians vote to recognize the Genocide as they have in much of Europe, America and Canada, then they scream that the historians are the only valid speakers; when the Religeous leaders speak, then the denialists turn back to the politicians again. When are they going to learn that there is no where to run and hide from the truth?

Yes but I understand that Turks have been lining up all species of creatures on the Earth (who posses no means of speech) to be able to claim that not one of these has ever acknowledged the Armenian Genocide - so it certainly could never have happened...next I think they will interview dead people...no not a single confirmation - you see! And I think the fact that (American) Armenians slice and dice Turkey's every Thanksgiving is being used in the latest campaign to proove Armenian ill intentions toward Turkey ("you cannot deny this one!")

And of course - having at least one Armenian on record of proclaiming a desire for independence (I think one attempted to incorporate Sivas...) or harming a Turk in some way (that Armenian didn't move out of my oxcart's way fast enough causing me to fall in my seat...etc) becomes an immediate justification for apprpriate "Turkish Countermeasures" - yes Armenians started it....we rebeled (ie refused to convert...), fought for independence ("no - I'd rather you didn't kill me...), killed Turks (yeah...thats the ticket...), stabbed Turks in the back (always do...), cavorted with the enemy (Is that Vodka you're drinking!) - etc - well at least one of them (Armenians) did at one point or another... - so of course the Turks were forced to take action - absolutly the last thing on their mind...they really didn't want to do it...after all they had done for Armenians over the years it should have been obvious how much they cared...but they had no choice really...I mean Turkish honor was at stake...

Happy Turkey Day everyone (you don't think they really will use it against us do you?)

[UKTurk]

Perhaps not, but you cannot deny that it is a big step for Israel to take against Turkey - this Rabbi represents the Jewish Faith of Israel, in other words, he has more than a few constituents, don't you think?

I am interested, how does this event make Turks feel? Please tell us how it makes you feel towards Israel?

I think they should get out of Israel the home of the Palestinians. Oh yeah and another thing isn't Judaism all about the Jewish race being the chosen ones and everyone else who isn't Jewish by race goes to hell? That sounds a bit racist to me.

The Israeli government is really friendly with the Turkish government as long as that status quo is maintain I couldn't be anymore happier.

Haha yeah the world is going to be Turkish!

Not the whole world! Mainly Western and Northern Iran but thats in many years to come. I only hope to see the day(maybe when Turkey gets rejected from Europe the process will get speeded up)

[Reincarnated Am]

Yona Metzger: There Is No Other Nation That Would Understand The Pain Of The Armenian

YONA METZGER: THERE IS NO OTHER NATION THAT WOULD UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF THE ARMENIANS BETTER THAN JEWS

Delegation of Chief Rabbi of Israel Lays Wreath to the Memorial of Armenian Genocide

After a visit to the Memorial of Armenian Genocide and Genocide Museum on November 22, Yona Metzger, Chief Rabbi of Israel, wrote in the guest book: "I express my spiritual and religious reconciliation with the tragedy of the Armenian people, with numerous Armenians who were killed because of being Armenian. Let the souls of the perished help the Armenians of Armenia and Diaspora."

His Holiness, Armenian Catholicos Karekin II and the Chief Rabbi of Israel laid wreaths November 22 to the Genocide Victims Memorial, planted a tree and prayed for the memory of the victims. Also wreaths were laid on behalf of the Israeli parliament and the All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress. "As leaders of religious communities we have to remind our peoples of the horrific killings, remind and keep that memory." Rabbi Metzger also told journalists that one should not pay attention to statements that pursue political goals. Contrary to the Israel's official stance, Metzger calls things by their names, acknowledges the Armenian Genocide and mourns the perished together with the Armenian people.

Asked whether the Chief Rabbi calls the tragedy of 1915 genocide Metzger said: "I certainly use that term. The pictures and documents that we saw speak for themselves and tears that came to our throats while walking about the museum were not false. Perhaps nobody can feel [this tragedy] more profoundly than the Jewish people."

Asked whether it is possible that the Israeli state will recognize the Armenian Genocide, Metzger said religious and state authorities are separated in his country and religious authorities do not intervene in state affairs but "we have our ways of expressing our feelings and views."

Yuri Stern, a Knesset delegate and chairman of the Armenian-Israeli Parliamentary Group, said that Israel "has wonderful relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan; Turkey is an important ally of ours." "I think it gives nobody the right to shift the past. I am one of those Jews who think that we have no right to deny tragic historic facts of a nation depending on political situation. I told this to my colleges from both your neighboring states. We value our cooperation with them and hopefully it will continue. The Armenian tragedy has nothing to do with contemporary politics," he said reminding that the first truthful book on Armenian tragedy was written by German Jew Franz Werfel.

Quoting Hitler's infamous words that succeeded the Holocaust, Stern expressed hope that Turkey will recognize the Genocide in foreseeable future as the European structures more and more raise the issue as a prerequisite for Turkey's accession to EU.

The visit of the Israeli delegation was organized by direct support of Ara Abrahamian, chairman of the World Armenian Congress. "This visit is of great historic importance. This is the first time that the Chief Rabbi of Israel visits Armenia; and today these people are talking about the fact of the Genocide. This is the beginning; hopefully members of the Israeli parliament, political and cultural figures will also visit Armenia," Ara Abrahamian told daily Azg.

Gersh Burstein, Chief Rabbi of Armenia's Jewish community, told Azg that the Armenian Catholicos and the Chief Rabbi of Israel had meetings in the past but this was the first time they met in Armenia. "Religious leaders should undertake solving of issues that are often too hard for the politicians to solve. I also was deeply touched when the Chief Rabbi expressed willingness to visit Genocide Memorial. The words of the Rabbi will stand against time. I am glad to be here at this historic moment that will bring our nations closer."

By Tatoul Hakobian

http://www.azg.am/?lang=EN&num=2005112402

Yes...!!!! The pants is down now

[phantom]

Not the whole world! Mainly Western and Northern Iran but thats in many years to come. I only hope to see the day(maybe when Turkey gets rejected from Europe the process will get speeded up)

I assume then that your plan would be to give the Kurds back their land in Southeastern Turkey and Northern Iraq; fair is fair, right?

[imported_anoush]

Only time well tell if this is just another game of "good cop, bad cop." I would tend not to get too prematurely excited.