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  • Members of the Organization of Istanbul Armenians are among the most patriotic Armenians in Los Angeles, and they are credited with many cultural and political rallies and events.

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    • Originally posted by 1.5 million
      exactly Gavur - well said...extreme racists and ultr-nationalists are the problem - no matter what ethnicity.

      It is most shameful for any Jews to deny the Armenian Genocide - likewise it is most shameful for Armenians to be racist towards jews or any other ethnic group...after what our people have been through and suffered because of...
      I think the racial hatred deployed in this forum (by some extremists) is a problem that must be tackled.

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      • Exterism is a real problem here in this forum.

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        • Originally posted by ScythianVizier
          I think the racial hatred deployed in this forum (by some extremists) is a problem that must be tackled.
          I agree, but how do we tackle it? There's a fine line between senseless censorship and banning hate speech. Generally, my view has always been that the marketplace of ideas will work itself out, so that harmful ideas are left by the roadside while helpful ideas are further explored. I'm not worried that these racist ideas are going to take hold in this forum or among Armenians in general. But at the same time, I think a few bad apples can really distract us from the theme, and get us talking about stupid and worthless topics. I'm also concerned that a few bad apples are enough to spoil our (Armenian) reputation.

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          • Originally posted by phantom
            I agree, but how do we tackle it? There's a fine line between senseless censorship and banning hate speech. Generally, my view has always been that the marketplace of ideas will work itself out, so that harmful ideas are left by the roadside while helpful ideas are further explored. I'm not worried that these racist ideas are going to take hold in this forum or among Armenians in general. But at the same time, I think a few bad apples can really distract us from the theme, and get us talking about stupid and worthless topics. I'm also concerned that a few bad apples are enough to spoil our (Armenian) reputation.
            I agrre with you on many points.But I think racist will get stronger day by day in real life and here in this forum.

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            • Armenology Department Of Hebrew University Of Jerusalem OrganizesMemory

              ARMENOLOGY DEPARTMENT OF HEBREW UNIVERSITY OF JERUSALEM ORGANIZES MEMORY-EVENING DEDICATED TO 91ST ANNIVERSARY OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

              Noyan Tapan
              Armenians Today
              Apr 13 2006

              JERUSALEM, APRIL 13, NOYAN TAPAN - ARMENIANS TODAY. A memory-evening
              dedicated to the 91st anniversary of the Armenian Genocide will
              be held by the Armenology Department of the Hebrew University of
              Jerusalem on April 26. According to the information submitted to
              Noyan Tapan by the Armenology Department of the Hebrew University,
              Archbishop Torgom Manukian, the Armenian Patriarch of Jerusalem will
              participate in this event of painful memories and self-examination,
              but aimed to beleif and optimism. Yossi Sarid, a member of the
              Israel Knesset, and Professor Abraham Terian, a famous Armenologist
              awarded the "Fullbright" grant will make the main speeches during
              the evening. Tsolak Momjian, the Honourary Consul of the Republic of
              Armenia and Professor Michael E.Stone, the Chief of the Armenology
              Department of the Hebrew University, the organizer of the evening
              will aslo make speeches. The reception that will start at 18:30,
              and the official event following it at 19:00, will take place in the
              "Beit Belgia" subsidiary building of the Givat Ram campus of the
              Hebrew University.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • Israeli Education Minister Recognizes the Armenian Genocide

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                • But I dont think that Istanbul Armenians in general think like average other diaspora Armenians.

                  I know Armenians who wouldnt shake hand with a Turk(this actually happened to a person I know). Also a friend of mine who atteneded college at USC had a friend who is Armenian(just fr a very short amount of time), when that Armenian learned that my friend is Turkish, he quit speaking and behave as if my friend non-existing. My friend didnt care about it but he couldnt comrehend why did that.
                  As I understand Istanbul Armenians in LA are not like that. Thye might participate political rallies but I dont think that they would ever burn Turkish flag like other political groups do.


                  Originally posted by Kharpert
                  Members of the Organization of Istanbul Armenians are among the most patriotic Armenians in Los Angeles, and they are credited with many cultural and political rallies and events.

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                  • Originally posted by 1.5 million
                    exactly Gavur - well said...extreme racists and ultr-nationalists are the problem - no matter what ethnicity.

                    It is most shameful for any Jews to deny the Armenian Genocide - likewise it is most shameful for Armenians to be racist towards jews or any other ethnic group...after what our people have been through and suffered because of...
                    Just out of curiosity, can you tell us why jews denying the Armenian Genocide is only shameful, but not racist, yet Armenians are called racists, Nazis etc etc etc?

                    Is it possible for jews to be racists, or are they only victims?

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                    • I have my opinions and I've certainly come accross racist Jews - very much so - just as there are racists from all groups - some more then others though it seems - and you are likely increasing the statistics for whatever group you belong to.

                      However as for answering any question from you - up yours - you don't deserve xxxx. We don't need your types comming onto a forum concerning the Armenian Genocide and constantly ranting about Jews. I know this gets you off - but we don't need it. It is neither useful nor interesting nor particularly helpful to anyone - and particulalry not now when there might be folks trying to check out info and facts concerning the Genocide (in response to publicity from this new film to be shown on PBS and because of events around April 24) and instead wht they will see are racist rants concerning Jews. These hurt our cause - because others can (rightly?) catagorize us as among the haters - like those who cause these things (genocides). They will look here and see ugly Armenians like you and conclude that Armenians were probably deserving of what they got. But you don't represent Armenians (and I don't claim to either - never had - but at least Iam not an embarrasment). Anyway I've wasted far too much time on you and your type already here. Get lost.

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