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  • #131
    yawn...go back to your silly so-called Armenian Nationalist Forum were you came from and stroke yourselves silly...

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    • #132
      1.5 I dont know who you are anymore!

      You are a great advocate against deniers yet you disqualify yourself of being an Armenian (I thought your grandmas side was you said) Yet when your confronted by ultra nationalists you retreat
      Your responses are giving a false impressions of a covert being who does not take a personal stand.To most of us in this forum the degree of your Armenianness,Jewishness or Turkishness for that matter does not matter but your personal crediblesness rely on being straight and not to contradict yourself grossly.
      Because we accept you way you are.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #133
        Originally posted by Gavur
        1.5 I dont know who you are anymore!

        You are a great advocate against deniers yet you disqualify yourself of being an Armenian (I thought your grandmas side was you said) Yet when your confronted by ultra nationalists you retreat
        Your responses are giving a false impressions of a covert being who does not take a personal stand.To most of us in this forum the degree of your Armenianness,Jewishness or Turkishness for that matter does not matter but your personal crediblesness rely on being straight and not to contradict yourself grossly.
        Because we accept you way you are.
        I just said that I don't claim to speak for other Armenians as these clowns claim to. I understand that there is a wide diversity of views in the Armenian communiyt. Sure it includes some racist views - but not to the degree that we see from the juvieniles who frequesnt these forums. You are accusing me of retreating from ultra-nationalists? Well you don't know me very well obviously...but I am trying to abide by the rules of this forum for one and certainly minimize discussion of off topic issues, silly conspiracy theories, idle speculation and racist blabber. I've really had anough of these types going back 5 years + - and I have quite an archive to prove that I have opposed these types mightily in the past. Anyway I don't at all understand why you are comming down on me...I mean look at these idiots...do you really think that they are doing us any good?

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        • #134
          Well if what they believe in is true,I really believe we cant fight it the way their doing it we can only fight it quietly ands secretly not like these.

          If their false then what theyre doing is also wrong because they are diverting the attention on false premise.

          If what they were saying is true based on a well known a few conspirity theorist authors Im sure they were some Armenians that were involved in this as well why their names are never mentioned?

          1.5 I just like to see you more proud of your Armenian heritage beside your academic accoplishments thats all.
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #135
            Originally posted by Gavur
            Well if what they believe in is true,I really believe we cant fight it the way their doing it we can only fight it quietly ands secretly not like these.

            If their false then what theyre doing is also wrong because they are diverting the attention on false premise.

            If what they were saying is true based on a well known a few conspirity theorist authors Im sure they were some Armenians that were involved in this as well why their names are never mentioned?

            1.5 I just like to see you more proud of your Armenian heritage beside your academic accoplishments thats all.
            Some have even expressed doubt that these idiots are Armenian at all - claiming that they are Turks who are trying to discredit the Armenian cause. I think that they are just hateful people whose hate (of Jews) has so consumed them that they can think of nothing else (pretty obvious IMO).

            I'm very proud of my Armenian heritage. Would I be on these sites fighting these battles if I wasn't?

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            • #136
              Thank you for that reconformation I'm sorry I felt the need to ask you.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #137
                Originally posted by 1.5 million
                I just said that I don't claim to speak for other Armenians as these clowns claim to.
                No? Then how come you're always saying "us", "we", "our cause"? We don't speak FOR Armenians, we speak AS Armenians, something which YOU cannot do.

                I understand that there is a wide diversity of views in the Armenian communiyt.
                But you won't accept any that differs from yours not to mention the fact that you're not even Armenian.

                Sure it includes some racist views - but not to the degree that we see from the juvieniles who frequesnt these forums.
                Why don't you explain to him why racism only becomes an issue for you when it's about jews? There has been plenty of racism against turks, Arabs, Iraqis, Kurds, Serbs (particularly by your buddy Gondorian who claims to be against racism, yet he calls Serbs scun, but that didn't phase you in the least either) and every other race you can think of, but you never have a problem with any racism unless it's against your precious jews. Go ahead and explain to him why that is.

                You are accusing me of retreating from ultra-nationalists? Well you don't know me very well obviously...
                Obviously he doesn't know you very well, but I do. You retreat because you don't have a leg to stand on and every time you open your lying mouth, you only get yourself deeper in your own xxxx.

                but I am trying to abide by the rules of this forum for one and certainly minimize discussion of off topic issues, silly conspiracy theories, idle speculation and racist blabber. I've really had anough of these types going back 5 years + - and I have quite an archive to prove that I have opposed these types mightily in the past.
                Mighty poorly if anything. Sure you have opposed plenty, but you always ended up the loser because all you do is lie and BS, but you always get caught. Didn't your momma ever tell you it's not nice to lie? I guess not.

                Anyway I don't at all understand why you are comming down on me...I mean look at these idiots...do you really think that they are doing us any good?
                Us? Who is this "us" you speak of? He is comming down on you because he is obviouly confused and doesn't know what to make of you anymore. He thought he knew you, but now he sees the other and "real" side of you and doesn't know what to make of it. He thought you were a hero, but now he's seeng that you're actually a zero because for a long time you were "acting" like some kind of brave warrior who stood for truth and justice, but now he's starting to see that you're nothing but a phony. How does it feel to be exposed, loser.

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                • #138
                  What I meant was if the Zionist/masonic/Jwish conspiricy to exterminate the Armenians is true to extend The world order they still hold you must organize more quitely to fight against it.

                  And there are lots of Armenian Masons in the world back then and NOW!
                  maybe they were not of the highest degree?
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #139
                    I suppose I understand your anger and frustration about Israel's lack of acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide, and AIPAC's direct efforts to block acknowledgment in the U.S. And I can understand your efforts to expose this immoral behavior and policy. But what I don't understand is why you have to deny the Jewish Holocaust or say anything about it whatsoever. Why can't you attack morally bankrupt Israeli politics on the Armenian Genocide issue without getting muddled in the business of the Holocaust. I think that you should try to be more wise about the battles you pick. In today's world, denying the Holocaust is like denying that the Earth is round. Once you do that, everything else you say is tainted with credibility issues. So I think that ultimately, you hurt our cause rather than advance it when you bring in your obviously irrational view of the Holocaust. Furthermore, I'm not sure that you even believe that there was no Holocaust; you're just irrationally reacting to the immoral Israeli policy with anger and revenge. I suggest that you eliminate all Holocaust discussions from your agenda and focus simply on Israel's absurd and disgusting policy of ignoring the first Genocide of the 20th century. You'll have fewer critics, and your message will not immediately be discredited as the hate-ramblings of an anti-semite. Do you understand what I'm saying?

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                    • #140
                      Phantom - don't you think I have said this exact same thing to him/them 6 years ago (in fact I could likely dig up my post saying essentially these same words). You are mistaken that they car more about Armenians and the Armenian Genocide then they care about their hatred of Jews. They have proven this repeadetly. There is no point attempting civil diologue with these hateful racist freaks.

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