yawn...go back to your silly so-called Armenian Nationalist Forum were you came from and stroke yourselves silly...
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1.5 I dont know who you are anymore!
You are a great advocate against deniers yet you disqualify yourself of being an Armenian (I thought your grandmas side was you said) Yet when your confronted by ultra nationalists you retreat
Your responses are giving a false impressions of a covert being who does not take a personal stand.To most of us in this forum the degree of your Armenianness,Jewishness or Turkishness for that matter does not matter but your personal crediblesness rely on being straight and not to contradict yourself grossly.
Because we accept you way you are."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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Originally posted by Gavur1.5 I dont know who you are anymore!
You are a great advocate against deniers yet you disqualify yourself of being an Armenian (I thought your grandmas side was you said) Yet when your confronted by ultra nationalists you retreat
Your responses are giving a false impressions of a covert being who does not take a personal stand.To most of us in this forum the degree of your Armenianness,Jewishness or Turkishness for that matter does not matter but your personal crediblesness rely on being straight and not to contradict yourself grossly.
Because we accept you way you are.
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Well if what they believe in is true,I really believe we cant fight it the way their doing it we can only fight it quietly ands secretly not like these.
If their false then what theyre doing is also wrong because they are diverting the attention on false premise.
If what they were saying is true based on a well known a few conspirity theorist authors Im sure they were some Armenians that were involved in this as well why their names are never mentioned?
1.5 I just like to see you more proud of your Armenian heritage beside your academic accoplishments thats all."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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Originally posted by GavurWell if what they believe in is true,I really believe we cant fight it the way their doing it we can only fight it quietly ands secretly not like these.
If their false then what theyre doing is also wrong because they are diverting the attention on false premise.
If what they were saying is true based on a well known a few conspirity theorist authors Im sure they were some Armenians that were involved in this as well why their names are never mentioned?
1.5 I just like to see you more proud of your Armenian heritage beside your academic accoplishments thats all.
I'm very proud of my Armenian heritage. Would I be on these sites fighting these battles if I wasn't?
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Thank you for that reconformation I'm sorry I felt the need to ask you."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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Originally posted by 1.5 millionI just said that I don't claim to speak for other Armenians as these clowns claim to.
I understand that there is a wide diversity of views in the Armenian communiyt.
Sure it includes some racist views - but not to the degree that we see from the juvieniles who frequesnt these forums.
You are accusing me of retreating from ultra-nationalists? Well you don't know me very well obviously...
but I am trying to abide by the rules of this forum for one and certainly minimize discussion of off topic issues, silly conspiracy theories, idle speculation and racist blabber. I've really had anough of these types going back 5 years + - and I have quite an archive to prove that I have opposed these types mightily in the past.
Anyway I don't at all understand why you are comming down on me...I mean look at these idiots...do you really think that they are doing us any good?
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What I meant was if the Zionist/masonic/Jwish conspiricy to exterminate the Armenians is true to extend The world order they still hold you must organize more quitely to fight against it.
And there are lots of Armenian Masons in the world back then and NOW!
maybe they were not of the highest degree?"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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I suppose I understand your anger and frustration about Israel's lack of acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide, and AIPAC's direct efforts to block acknowledgment in the U.S. And I can understand your efforts to expose this immoral behavior and policy. But what I don't understand is why you have to deny the Jewish Holocaust or say anything about it whatsoever. Why can't you attack morally bankrupt Israeli politics on the Armenian Genocide issue without getting muddled in the business of the Holocaust. I think that you should try to be more wise about the battles you pick. In today's world, denying the Holocaust is like denying that the Earth is round. Once you do that, everything else you say is tainted with credibility issues. So I think that ultimately, you hurt our cause rather than advance it when you bring in your obviously irrational view of the Holocaust. Furthermore, I'm not sure that you even believe that there was no Holocaust; you're just irrationally reacting to the immoral Israeli policy with anger and revenge. I suggest that you eliminate all Holocaust discussions from your agenda and focus simply on Israel's absurd and disgusting policy of ignoring the first Genocide of the 20th century. You'll have fewer critics, and your message will not immediately be discredited as the hate-ramblings of an anti-semite. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Phantom - don't you think I have said this exact same thing to him/them 6 years ago (in fact I could likely dig up my post saying essentially these same words). You are mistaken that they car more about Armenians and the Armenian Genocide then they care about their hatred of Jews. They have proven this repeadetly. There is no point attempting civil diologue with these hateful racist freaks.
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