Chief Rabbi of Israel Recognizes the Armenian Genocide

[Gavur]

Go ahead and draw any fine lines you like and I'll consider them although I will reserve the right to accept them or reject them, but I won't attack you or call you names regardless of how redicilous they might be to me. 

Fair enough

[Gavur]

There's no amount of recognition that's going to do any kind of healing for me and I don't want any pity or sympathy from anyone. All I want is our lands back and for the turks and the OTHERS to pay for the damages they caused our country and our people and then to leave us the hell alone so we can start rebuilding it and try to get on with our lives instead of spending our time on internet forums talking about the gretest injustice in history.[/QUOTE]

You really didnt get what I was saying did you.

This is exactly what I said to get the above reponse from you.

Some Jews are more healed of the Holocaust then others just like some Armenians.We the heaked ones have a responsibility towards the unhealed.
This is not too much to ask from the Jewish community considiring their healing process was accelerated by way of recognition and reparations.

[Gavur]

Maybe your reading/listening skills need practise your not following what i'm saying
It seems you are following some chorus line.

[Kharpert]

There's no amount of recognition that's going to do any kind of healing for me and I don't want any pity or sympathy from anyone. All I want is our lands back and for the turks and the OTHERS to pay for the damages they caused our country and our people and then to leave us the hell alone...

Under what course of action, situation, or event would Armenia be able to get its lands back, or have its damages paid for, or even be left alone?

I just want to understand what Armenia should do to get its lands and money back.

[Tatoul]

Maybe your reading/listening skills need practise your not following what i'm saying
It seems you are following some chorus line.

Well your English isn't all that great and sometimes it's a little hard to figure out exactly what you mean. Next time I'll ask you to clarify it if I don't understad something and have considered that maybe it's you who doesn't understand me reply?

BTW, quit with that HTML thing cause it screws up the page and if you don't mind, maybe you can fix them and use the quote thing instead.

Also, don't ignore everything I write and just nit pick little things.

[Gavur]

Well am i to understand we dont need or want Turkish and/or Jewish support in our cause because you say they all did it!

or what assistance they provide is miniscul and can be disregarded ?

or you and your so-called camp are so bent on taking credit of a group effort of this fight you want to minimize their efforts and want to have the right to call out who is with us and who isn't?

My inquiring mind wants to know.

[Tatoul]

And those materials kinda like Chinese food 30 minutes after you eat/read you still feel hungry but they are very appetizing because they name names place in a very direct and sincere way but they tell you the way it is (which makes me wonder) normally I have to look at an issue from several and or many view points before I can ascertain the truth that is usually suspended in the air then make it my own and digest it and never feel hungry again therefore evolve my self,Those materials unfortunatly does not do this its kinda of fast food for someones in a hurry.It requires you not to think it tells you without contradiction or doubt and that forces me to belieave The authors are neither first hand witnesses nor they are academics analyzing their finds .
I hope I was clear.

I'm not sure exacly what material you're comparing to Chinese food, but like I said before, there aren't many that, or actually, none of them tell you the whole story about anything. Kinda like eating rice to know what Chinese food tastes like. But when you get corroborating stories from numerous sources, it's like going to a buffet and tasting everything. Raphael De Nogales was a first hand witness for one and you seem to forget that it was supposed to be "secret", so why are you so surprised that information is scarce and hard to come by? Anyway, I don't look at individual articles and decide to accept of dismiss them individually as you do. I look at everything all together and cross reference key points before I accept anything, but even when one single statement from a book or document fits in the big picture like a missing piece of the puzzle, I won't just dismiss it.

[Tatoul]

Well am i to understand we dont need or want Turkish and/or Jewish support in our cause because you say they all did it!

or what assistance they provide is miniscul and can be disregarded ?

or you and your so-called camp are so bent on taking credit of a group effort of this fight you want to minimize their efforts and want to have the right to call out who is with us and who isn't?

My inquiring mind wants to know.

Is that what I wrote? Did I write "I don't want turkish and/or jewish support."?

Before you go off the deep end with the or or or. Quote me on what it is you're taking about and then ask istead of using the speculation followed by justification thing.

[Gavur]

Gavur
We dont have to support their claims until they do ours, but to attack them with denial or accusing them of concpiricy in the crime of genocide of Armenians without substential proof is illadvised and converts us into being like them.


Tatoul

You're entitled to your opinion and we're not asking for their support. We just want them to just shut the hell up and stop their lies and denials, or is that too much to ask!? As for the conspiracies, we have more than substantial proof, but of course it doesn't exist when you choose to ignore it all. What you are doing here is no different than the turks getting their lies crushed and blown to smitherines with all the evidence we have and provide, then they come back a week later and try passing off the same old tired and worn out BS as if they had never been countered. Go ahead and try to tell me that there was no substantial proof that pan-turkism was an idea put forth by jews. Go ahead and try telling me that 1.5's mere say so that it was a turkish idea holds more water than all the concrete evidence available in all kinds of books and historic documents. We are NOT like them. We have NEVER been like them nor will we EVER become like them. Unless phantom get's his way.



Gav:Thats what im talking about which really represents you
you are basically saying you dont care whose toes you steppe on because you dont need their support anyways in a way.

[Gavur]

I'm not sure exacly what material you're comparing to Chinese food, but like I said before, there aren't many that, or actually, none of them tell you the whole story about anything. Kinda like eating rice to know what Chinese food tastes like. But when you get corroborating stories from numerous sources, it's like going to a buffet and tasting everything. Raphael De Nogales was a first hand witness for one and you seem to forget that it was supposed to be "secret", so why are you so surprised that information is scarce and hard to come by? Anyway, I don't look at individual articles and decide to accept of dismiss them individually as you do. I look at everything all together and cross reference key points before I accept anything, but even when one single statement from a book or document fits in the big picture like a missing piece of the puzzle, I won't just dismiss it.

Mainly Jack manuelyan and his UFO crowd i guess