Religion Discussion (seperated from Turkish Defense)

[TurQ]

Yes they can, and that pretty much possible. The important thing is the intentions. If you intentionally and willingly do it, thats a problem.

His life is an example because he explained Qur'an the word of God by his life.
The most important thing is being consistent in 5 pillars of Islam and 6 principles of faith. If you try to confrom your life with those and try to avoid contradictions, hopefully God may forgive sins(if they are repented). By our nature(as humans) we do actually commit sins do mistakes. But it is also part of our nature to avoid sins do good deeds. Our intentions should be avoiding those and ask mercy of God, and hope to be saved on the day of judgement.

I guess the question I'm asking is ,can one examplify their life after Muhammed and Jesus and find no contradictions the way they lived?

[Turanist]

For your information, Islam is not a race, it’s a religion, and one cannot be a racist towards a religion. I am only against and hate stupid fundamentalists and idiot fanatics such as your friend who puts down Christianity; thinking just because he is an Islam only Muslims can enter heaven.
I think you people when you read something instead of blood your “Bokh” rushes to your brains, that’s why you translate them differently, or you guys just don’t get them.

but isnt Israelite race? they are Jewish so it is Jewish race.

[Kharpert]

No, there is no single Jewish race. There are many ethnic divisions between Jews. Anyone can become a Jew by converting their religion. Also, to be Israelite means to be from Israel. There are plenty of Arabs who are Israelites.

So, no. Isrealite is not a race. Judaism is not a race.

[Reincarnated Am]

but isnt Israelite race? they are Jewish so it is Jewish race.

In Arabic they say; what’s farthing has to do with saying Hello?
No, not all Israelites are Jews nor all Jews are Israelites.

[Turanist]

That is good information to know. the Jewish say that they are the children of Israel so that means God promised them the land Israel. but they are not ethnic children of Israel so they claim is wrong? then why they still in Israel? and they do Genocide on the Fillistines.

[Kharpert]

Yeah, I never really got into the whole "chosen people" thing myself.

[Reincarnated Am]

That is good information to know. the Jewish say that they are the children of Israel so that means God promised them the land Israel. but they are not ethnic children of Israel so they claim is wrong? then why they still in Israel? and they do Genocide on the Fillistines.

Look who’s asking that question? If you’re from Turkey all you have to do is look down and ask yourself this question, “whose lands I am standing on?" And do you ever read history? Where do you think Jews came from? Don’t forget Judaism is older then Islam, as much as Muslims have the right to be there so does the Jews.

[Turanist]

Look who’s asking that question? If you’re from Turkey all you have to do is look down and ask yourself this question, “whose lands I am standing on?" And do you ever read history? Where do you think Jews came from? Don’t forget Judaism is older then Islam, as much as Muslims have the right to be there so does the Jews.

Land is not perminant though look in the America! is that land for White peoples or Native peoples? The bible say Jews come from Israel. But bible say
Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Why is it saying kill baby by throw them at rocks?

you think you are also correct. Judaism is like racism. they can be keeping slaves and they said god think it ok Islam want to get rid of slavery. Islam is peace but Christian like you lie and say that Turkey is the anti-Christ.

Bible: From the Bible and History we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the Empire that succeeds the Roman Empire
Islam: The Empire that succeeded the Roman/Byzantine Empire was the Islamic Ottoman Empire

also this:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1684.cfm

The Turks is not the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ will not come from Turkey.

[Kharpert]

I'm sorry, but nowhere does it say in the Bible that the Anti-christ will originate in Turkey.

You know, it's almost hilarious that you say Judaism and Christianity are racist, when 50% of all Islamic scripture and philosophy are based on Judaism and Christianity. Muslims also believe many parts of the Gospel and the Torah, so I don't know what you're complaining about.

[Reincarnated Am]

Land is not perminant though look in the America! is that land for White peoples or Native peoples? The bible say Jews come from Israel. But bible say
Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Why is it saying kill baby by throw them at rocks?

you think you are also correct. Judaism is like racism. they can be keeping slaves and they said god think it ok Islam want to get rid of slavery. Islam is peace but Christian like you lie and say that Turkey is the anti-Christ.

Bible: From the Bible and History we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the Empire that succeeds the Roman Empire
Islam: The Empire that succeeded the Roman/Byzantine Empire was the Islamic Ottoman Empire

also this:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1684.cfm

The Turks is not the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ will not come from Turkey.

My friend, you’re jumping from one issue to another without relevancy. Are you saying Muslims can claim Israel as” Palestine” but Jews have no right to claim it as “Israel”? Who was there first? Or Turks can claim Armenian or Greek lands as Turkey but we don’t have the right to say these were our lands?
Where did I talk about the Anti Christ in my post? First you quote what I said, then your brain, which is full of “bokh”, takes over and you start saying ridiculous things.
Personally I think that; “Anti Christ” is already here, you don’t have to worry from where he will show up. My philosophy is; Jesus Christ represent God and Humanity, and every crime was committed against God or humanity has the Anti Christ’s signature on it, So saying the Anti Christ will come, is a stupid thing.