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  • #191
    Originally posted by Gavur
    Are you talking about 1.5M?
    No, not that Jew, I meant David-X, the one that wants to kill all Muslims.

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    • #192
      Thank you backs!
      Btw your Avatar is too sad! its the most horrible pic I ever seen.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #193
        Naa you only see the vocal ones,besides we cover lots of subjects that are connected to and can affect the Genocide issue so its only natural different voices are heard including yours.
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #194
          Originally posted by Gavur
          Naa you only see the vocal ones,besides we cover lots of subjects that are connected to and can affect the Genocide issue so its only natural different voices are heard including yours.
          You mean to tell me, the only vocal ones in this site are Turks and Jews?

          Back to the topic of this thread: This "David" character had a good point. Some Armenians demand land and money reparations from Turks, how could we then expect them (the Turks) to come to terms with the Genocide? If I were a Turk I would never trust Armenian intentions. Also, Israel needs Turkey very badly. How can we expect Israel to support us? These are somethings that have always concerned me. Politics suck.

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          • #195
            Originally posted by Heat
            There was a genocide of jews in Iran? I find it very interesting, plese tell us more about it.
            I don't think that's what he meant... Don't take it to the extreme. No, the Iran/Israel relationship isn't a MIRROR image of the Armenian/Turk relationship, and I don't think that's what Kharpert sought to assert.

            I believe he was saying the sour relationships (for different reasons) between Iran/Israel and Armenia/Turkey are both very difficult to reconcile, and that if David thinks it's so easy to reconcile MAJOR CONFLICTS why doesn't Israel reconcile it's own MAJOR CONFLICT...

            (Kharpert, forgive and correct me if I am wrong)

            P.S. If you're going to accuse Kharpert of being a hypocrite, please defend your statement with some examples... that's quite an accusation to make against someone who has been a valued member of this forum for so long, without backing it up with some evidence.

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            • #196
              Originally posted by Heat
              No you didn't! All you did was try to cover up the jew/donme/zionist involvement in the AG. While you "pretend" to be against racism, everyone can clearly see that you have no concern of any kind about any kind of racism. The only thing you have done that you are trying to qualify as "against racism", was to try to keep Armenians from finding out certain information which wasn't racism at all but you are still trying to misconstrue as racism.
              If you came to AG.com to conspiracy theorize about a Jew/Donme/Zionist conspiracy w/ respect to the AG, you came to the wrong forum. Read the rules... Go find a forum that DOES allow it, if you can't there's probably a reason, if you can - stay there, but one things for sure, you won't be permitted to do it here...



              Originally posted by Heat
              So what gives you the right to call people similar things just because you don't agree with them?
              Again, steep accusations like this should be backed up with some examples...

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              • #197
                Heat,

                Neither I, nor anyone else on this forum is interested in your review of my behavior, past or present.

                My defense, as I so called it, was against Holocaust denial, which became such a stain on this forum that a rule was made against it. I am curious to know, however, how you got news of my stance when you joined only last month.

                To clarify my point with David-X, whom I imagine the both of you misinterpreted, the relationship between Israel and Iran is as antagonistic as that between Turkey and Armenia. David-X continually made nonsensical terms of reconcilliation while completely disregarding the reality and history of the situation. He was rambling on and on as if the past century was nothing but tea and cakes for Armenians. When I finally pressed him with a vivid example, he realized he was defeated and thought it was funny to call me "Hitler". Thankfully Hovik understood my post better.

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                • #198
                  if im not mistaken, the iran/israel statement was to show to david that what he's asking for is israel to embrace iran, so i dont know where all the other fuss came from.

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                  • #199
                    Originally posted by Hovik
                    I don't think that's what he meant... Don't take it to the extreme. No, the Iran/Israel relationship isn't a MIRROR image of the Armenian/Turk relationship, and I don't think that's what Kharpert sought to assert.
                    I know that's not what he meant, but he might as well have since he sees the two situations similar enough to compare, which is what I found outragious. Even what you just wrote about it not being a MIRROR image, implies that it's similar, when in fact they are worlds appart and there are no similarities of any kind whatsoever between the two cases.

                    I believe he was saying the sour relationships (for different reasons) between Iran/Israel and Armenia/Turkey are both very difficult to reconcile, and that if David thinks it's so easy to reconcile MAJOR CONFLICTS why doesn't Israel reconcile it's own MAJOR CONFLICT...
                    What you just wrote here isn't any better. You compare them as being "sour relationships". Would you dare call the jewish holocaust a mere "sour relationship" between Germany and jews? Anyway, if that's what he meant, then that's what he should have written and not compared an unpunished crime of genocide to bickering between Iran and israel.

                    Or how about if I compared Germany's denials of the jewish genocide (if it were actual the case where Germany denied it as turkey does) as a "sour relationiship" between Germany and israel like that between the US and Cuba for instance? Yea I'm sure everyone would find that not exactly a MIRROR, but close enough for comparison.

                    If Dadrian isn't above criticism, then Kharpert most certainly isn't either.

                    P.S. If you're going to accuse Kharpert of being a hypocrite, please defend your statement with some examples... that's quite an accusation to make against someone who has been a valued member of this forum for so long, without backing it up with some evidence.
                    And if I do, what then? Will you spank him for being a hypocrite or ban me for pointing it out and backing it up with evidence? There is plenty of evidence of not only hypocracy of certain individuals, but also of blatant lies and false accusations which can be found all over this forum, which you choose to ignore because to you, they are "valued members" and beyond reproach or criticizm.

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                    • #200
                      Heat+Varouj_Illuminater=ANF invasion
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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