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Cultural Genocide, the Natural Byproduct of the Unnatural Turkish Genocidal Instinct

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  • #91
    Probably it i s the thieves who stole from historical buildings are responsible.

    Lots of historical buildings and even most famous historical buildings inIstanbul have been robbed and victimized by those robbers. Our guilt is not to keeping them insafety.

    I personally dont think that symbols or other stuff are purposely victimized by Turkish officials, it is a general Armenian thought about Turks. I think the things that happened to Turkish heritage is happening to Armenian heritage. I can easily find similiar examples from very famous Turkish historical buildings...

    Originally posted by phantom
    Cosmos, some of these churches and monastaries are over 1000 years old. How is it that they were strong enough to stand the test of time for 1000 years and then after the Genocide, they all of sudden crumble or disappear altogether? This is not just a case of lack of care. Some of these properties were obviously dismantled and intentionally destroyed. How can you ignore that?

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    • #92
      I know, you are always prepared to believe the exact opposite of what I say is true, neverthless, I’ll waste my time again.

      Before all, I want to explain something: I ‘m not a Turk racially in the whole but a citizen and live here since I was born. No Armenian in this forum have knowledges about Turkey and Turks as much as I have. Besides, estimated 70-80% people in Turkey also are not from Turk origin. (central Asia). Even if some of them are from Turk origin, almost all of them are mixed with the other races. In fact, there was not a original race called Turk in the past. The use of this word was started by some Turkists such as Ziya Gokalp or someone elses. The exact use of the word of Turk became after the foundation of Turkish Republic. So, the racist term of ‘’Gorilla’’ can not describe and contain any typicality from Turkey.

      As for historical monuments. I am giving an example now:

      Maybe some of you know The Temple of Bergama (Pergamon). This temple was disassembled by the Germans and taken to the Berlin in the early times of 20th century. I am not talking about the other small historical things. It is a temple in question. But no one from the Ottoman Government took the care of that incident or didn’t make even an obstruction for that theft. If a government does this, what do you expect from the ordinary people? Not only Armenian monuments, also the monuments of the other cultures weren’t taken into the consideration and cared by Turks for tens of years. In the city where I live, there are small amount of historical Turkish houses left as well. That is, Turks didn’t care of even their monuments but only big ones. (mosques or palaces). A kind of the lack of mentality, not culturel genocide.

      As for that Hellektor like people are the ones, whose brains are washed and who have been grown up with the hatred of Turks by the traumatic people or parents. They waste their times to find things giving them an false opportunity for despising of whole Turkish people. It is the same like saying that all Southern Americans are stupid. After spreading their craps, they take pride in their affairs as if they have done a great job.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by TurQ
        For Hellektor, I thought he was put in an mental institution probably he escaped again
        Option II: projection
        Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

        I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
        II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
        III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
        IV. They shut up and say nothing.

        [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Reincarnated Am
          Turkish way of restoration


          Dear Reincarnated, this is not restorape, this is a prime example of the 20th century artistic movement Abstract Destructionism, pioneered by the Turks, who have always been on the forefront of artistic innovation.
          (And to think they consider the Urartians their ancestors.
          If they do such things to 3000 year old human heritage in this day and age then Vay mezi ga...)
          Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

          I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
          II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
          III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
          IV. They shut up and say nothing.

          [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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          • #95
            Originally posted by phantom
            Cosmos, some of these churches and monastaries are over 1000 years old. How is it that they were strong enough to stand the test of time for 1000 years and then after the Genocide, they all of sudden crumble or disappear altogether? This is not just a case of lack of care. Some of these properties were obviously dismantled and intentionally destroyed. How can you ignore that?
            I know some monuments were destroyed intentionally for they represent christianity. But not only Armenians's, also some churchces and monasteries of the other cultures were destroyed.

            I had visited the Sumela Monastery (pontiac's) in 1989, near Trabzon. I saw some destructions there. It was obvious that that has been done for many years by some uneducated ordinary people for some simple reasons as a reaction to Christianity. There was no proof for a planned destruction. And I also saw many ruined historical mosques in different places in Turkey. An indifference about historical things. To show that as a culturel genocide is very exaggerated point of view nothing else.

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            • #96
              Brain damage is incurable

              Originally posted by cosmos2
              In spite of there is nothing to be taken seriously in this thread, neverthless, I decided to waste my time for a reply. Moreover, there are just few words to say about this threat: It is completely a cheat and antagonism of Turks again.

              These kind of performances can only provide ideas for some uneducated and stupid people (acute projection. H.) but not someone else and can not be introduced as a evidence of culturel genocide. Neither any Authority nor Historian accept it as a proof.

              What was done here is to pick up such photos of ruined buildings, that is due to the lack of good care and the lack of money, and to show them as a culturel genocide. Despite of knowing that Turkey is not a developed country to spend money and did not have enough mentality in the past for protecting those buildings, to expect such a care from Turkey is nonsense. (Then give us back our land and get the hell out. H.) And what a pity there is no even a Turk to reply and no moderator to give a warning for such insulting craps. It doesn’t matter that this site is for Armenians or the others.

              Yes, there are already some people being prepared to believe and applaud these kind of insults, especially from our neighour countries. Such people will always exist but it doesn’t matter.
              I decided NOT to waste my time for a reply.

              This is a severe case of Option II: projection and a total lack of any human attribute.
              One has only to look at the pictures and read my comments to see what's going on.

              What can one do, they'll deny it even when you film their army destroying our heritage in broad daylight.
              Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

              I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
              II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
              III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
              IV. They shut up and say nothing.

              [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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              • #97
                Originally posted by cosmos2
                As for historical monuments. I am giving an example now:

                Maybe some of you know The Temple of Bergama (Pergamon). This temple was disassembled by the Germans and taken to the Berlin in the early times of 20th century. I am not talking about the other small historical things. It is a temple in question. But no one from the Ottoman Government took the care of that incident or didn’t make even an obstruction for that theft. If a government does this, what do you expect from the ordinary people? Not only Armenian monuments, also the monuments of the other cultures weren’t taken into the consideration and cared by Turks for tens of years. In the city where I live, there are small amount of historical Turkish houses left as well. That is, Turks didn’t care of even their monuments but only big ones. (mosques or palaces). A kind of the lack of mentality, not culturel genocide.
                I think you are partly right, but I think that you are also ignoring that the govt. of Turkey has intentionally covered up its Armenian past and has destroyed Armenians properties in doing so. You saw with your own eyes all of the mosques and sports clubs and other buildings that were originally Armenian built hundreds of years ago. I'm not completely against Turkey converting an Armenian church into a mosque if there are no Armenians left to use it, since they've all been killed or driven away. But why not mention somewhere that the building was originally built in ____ A.D. by the Armenians . . .? Furthermore, I think that you are ignoring the many pictures Hellektor posted, which show certain historical sites that were completely raised. Obviously, this was not the job of local townspeople, but of some concerted effort to eliminate the structure entirely? And why would that happen if not for the purpose of eliminating the trace of the people who originally built it? Why is there no mention of the Armenians in the historical sites at the ancient city of Ani; the city was built by Armenians and was Armenia's ancient capital. How can you bring tourists there without even mentioning that fact? Doesn't that make you suspicious? If not, then you must be an idiot!

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                • #98
                  Get a Life

                  Originally posted by cosmos2
                  no comment... dead body porn (necrophilia) attached.
                  Desperate attempts to divert attention from the subject.
                  Diagnosis of the psychosis: Acute brain damage, using Option I: change the subject H.
                  Oh, give us a break cosmos2, this website is called:

                  http://www.armeniangenocide.com
                  Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                  I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                  II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                  III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                  IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                  [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                  • #99
                    Khojalu crap again and again and again and again and again and again...

                    Originally posted by cosmos2
                    No comment.
                    A pic from the Khojalu scam H.
                    If I were a moderator in an Armenian forum I would only ban any Turks who perpetuate this nauseating Khojalu crap.
                    I try hard to keep it in but this xxxx just gets the better of me.
                    We have dealt with this crap a zillion times.

                    This time I'll say what I have tried hard not to:

                    Theoretically speaking, if every Armenian living today could give all the Turks a thousand slow deaths each, it still would not make up for 0.001% of the pain you caused us the last thousand years.

                    The insignificant Khojalu incident where you shot about a hundred Turks in the front (most of them Mskhetis, settled there by "Azeris" themselves) and some 34 Armenian POWs (only 13 out of 47 who were in "Azeri" paws in that area returned), in Agdam which was not yet liberated, and subsequent application of Turkish Culture on their dead bodies and the wailing, howling and crying "Genocide" by Armenians is so distasteful that it makes me sick.

                    Have some shame. Every single evidence shows it was you who did it. I don't know why I bother.
                    I have to add a fifth option to my signature:
                    V. They use the purge inducing technique of bringing up the Khojalu crap.

                    Read this first then stop harassing us with this crap.

                    Here some facts:

                    Artsakh was treacherously annexed to the artificially inseminated bogus state, the fake "Azerbaijan" and Nakhijevan was also put under their hoofs in 1921, through a diabolical deal between the Bolsheviks and the Ottomans.

                    In 1988 the people of Artsakh demonstrated and demanded, in a civilized manner, the cessation from the barbaric "Azeri" yoke.
                    According to Soviet law, their demand was perfectly legal.

                    The savage, nomadic, genocidal Turks responded with genocidal acts in Sumgait, later in Gandzak, Baku, Field Artsakh and everywhere there were Armenians.
                    This resulted in more than 400,000 Armenians to be forced out of their occupied lands.

                    As if that wasn't enough, the "Azeris" started an all out war using their army, Afghan mujahedin, Al Qaida, Chechen terrorists and Slavonic mercenaries.

                    During three months they shelled the peaceful people of Stepanakert from Khojalu, Shushi and Aghdam, killing hundreds of people.
                    The Armenian volunteers had no choice but to liberate these firing points and that was what they did.

                    You lost the war you started. Then you begged for a cease-fire which you alas and alack got: the biggest mistake from the Armenian side...
                    They should have driven you out of our historic lands and poured you in the Caspian...

                    Then you started the sniveling and wailing that the Armenians have "occupied" 20% of "Azeri" land.
                    (Artsakh = 5% and cannot occupy itself. The liberated buffer zone = 8 or 9%, 5 + 9 = 14 not 20)

                    You are so blind you cannot see that the liberation of land is the CONSEQUENCE of your ACTIONS.

                    As far as the Khojalu scam is concerned, even a 12 year old will see that it was your very handwork:

                    Fact: The Armenians had opened a corridor for the civilians to leave and the "Azeris" were informed of this as confirmed by Mutalibov and many other "Azeri" and independent sources.

                    Fact: The Khojalu folk were killed (shot in the front) in Aghdam, where the Armenians did not have any access at the time.

                    Fact: The journalists including Chingiz Mustafayev who saw the bodies for the first and the second times, noticed that they were mutilated the second time.
                    The mutilation (application of Turkish Culture) probably dawned upon the savages to render the Armenian POWs unrecognizable.

                    Fact: After Chingiz Mustafayev did an independent research and contacted Moscow, he was murdered in Aghdam by "Azeris" because he found out it was you who did it.

                    Fact: After the setting up of the scam, Mutalibov was toppled.

                    Fact: Heydar Aliev said of the scam: The bloodshed will do good to us. We shouldn't interfere in the course of events.

                    Fact: Recently, after 14 years, Mutalibov reaffirmed his view that it was the opposition who did it to topple him.

                    I suggest the Turks who bring up this crap and who are directed to read the facts, be banned if they regurgitate this garbage after they have been asked to read the facts.
                    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                    • #100
                      We Are Not Afraid

                      Diagnosis: Option II. projection:
                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      When it doesn't suit your purpose, you are trying to change the subject. No Hellektor no.
                      Whose purpose doesn't this website suit?

                      Diagnosis: Option I. change the subject:
                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      Draw your head back from the hole of the past and look around. There are some tricks on the world. Be interested in those things for a while. There are more important things to be interested than AG.
                      Then get the hell out of this forum.

                      Diagnosis: Option III. cuss and threaten:
                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      ...I want to remind you that Turks are naturel-born soldiers and killers.
                      As if we didn't know!
                      Soldiers? I don't know about that, if killing people in their sleep is a heroic deed, if smashing thousand year old defenseless monuments is the proof of your valor, if the recruitment of all battle ready men from 18 to 45, their treacherous execution and the subsequent driving of millions of women, children and elderly like cattle to roast in the desert is your honor and pride, if the disembowelment of helpless pregnant women in maternity wards is a bright example of your courage, then some brave soldiers you are.

                      We are not a bit afraid.
                      We are children of Hyke and Aram...
                      We've got lions like Vartan, Andranik, Yeprem, Nikol Duman, Gevorg Chavush, Serob Aghbyur, Dro, Marshal Baghramian, Admiral Isakov...

                      We reached Berlin and helped kick Hitler's ass down the drain of history, while "Azeris", misusing the circumstances, were occupying real Azarbaijan.

                      The Artsakh movement shook the foundations of the USSR and even Gorbachev has admitted it.

                      We kicked your hairless Mongol asses in 1918 and in Artsakh.
                      We defended ourselves in 1905, when the savage Tatars (later mutated into "Azeris") incited by the Czarist regime, attacked and massacred peaceful Armenians in Baku, Artsakh and Nakhijevan.

                      Who are you threatening?
                      Without the zillion US$ you are nothing.
                      Without the kind help of the English xxxxxxs you are nothing.
                      Without the Israeli support you are nothing.
                      You are thieves, bandits, invaders, occupiers.
                      A thief sitting in other peoples' home is always afraid.
                      Our Cause is JUST.
                      You don't have a cause.

                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      As for your demand for Eastern Turkey. You must have a strong army and weapons. If you are ready, I'll be waiting with my army. And I want to remind you that Turks are naturel-born soldiers and killers.
                      You won't give, we will take.
                      As I have said a thousand times before:
                      When this Zionist/Anglo-Saxon Turkish phallus worship comes to an end, we’ll kick your Tatar asses back to Mongolia, the hell you come from and the hell you belong.


                      P.S. The country has a name, it's called Armenia.

                      Babylonian Clay Tablet 600 BC

                      Babylonian Clay Tablet 600 BC Interpreted

                      Ptolemy Tabvla nova Asia Minoris 1513

                      Sebastian Munster Asia Minor 1544

                      Philippe de La Rue: Asia Minor 1652 (Section)

                      Frederik de Wit Nova Persiae Armeniae Natoliae et Arabiae 1662

                      Kiepert: Asian Turkey 1872 (Section)

                      Reconstruction of Ashkharhatsouits, see for yourself how much of Armenia the bogus country is occupying

                      Originally posted by cosmos2
                      Draw your head back from the hole of the past and look around.

                      This is NOW! Are you blind? Look aroud, you...



                      Genocide in Broad Daylight

                      Nakhijevan, December 2005 not 1905 or 1915.
                      Destruction of the ancient Jugha cemetery by "Azeri" beasts
                      The murderer gets rid of the evidence of the existence of the victim.
                      Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                      I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                      II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                      III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                      IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                      [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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