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  • #1

    Throw Turkey out of Eurovision

    That the Turks hate the Armenians with all their existence is nothing new.

    That they cannot control their barbaric hateful instincts, even when they are parading themselves as perfectly integrated Europeans is evident once you stumble upon their Eurovision site:

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    http://eurovision-turkey.com/portal/index.php?newlang=english
    Scroll down the page and you'll see a section on the left-hand menu called "Armenian Terror" with several links to Turkish hate sites such as tallturkishtale.com and turkishfantasy.com.

    Also check the "Eurovision Song Contest" page where the Armenian flag is not represented besides the ESC entry like all the others. Soooo pathetic...

    No wonder! When they destroy Armenian heritage in broad daylight and all they get from the immoral, Christ killer Western money worshippers is just a "we are sorry, but we can't do anything", then what can you expect?

    To be fair, on the Greek website, this despicable behavior is condemned, but why do they stop there?

    Why don't the Euroxxxs threaten to throw Turkey out of the contest to force them to remove those hate links?

    How long do we have to tolerate this parasitical virus that has been gnawing at our existence for the past thousand years?
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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  • #2
    The EU is afraid of being labled rascist, so will tolerate anything from anyone that the EU considers to be other.

    I agree with you it is rediculous.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gondorian
      The EU is afraid of being labled rascist, so will tolerate anything from anyone that the EU considers to be other.

      I agree with you it is rediculous.
      Thanks for the support.
      If I am harsh sometimes, don't take it too seriously! I react to a given post in a fashion similar to that of the post. Sometimes misunderstandings occur as well.

      EU is not afraid of anything. The Armenians are simply not "important", in other words: the EU, UN, OSCE, UNESCO, USA... don't give a duck.
      Culture, history, contributions to civilization, just cause, victims of gross injustice... all of this do not weigh against a couple of oil drops.

      You know, these xxxxxxs need oil to make Vaseline to lubricate their rears to better accomodate the Turkish you know what and Khachkars for example, do not smell of oil.
      Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

      I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
      II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
      III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
      IV. They shut up and say nothing.

      [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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      • #4
        The Greek, Swedish and Dutch websites have condemned the actions of the Turkish website and have removed their links to that site. That's about all they can do. It's not the Turkish contestant's fault that the owners of that website are immature, racist, pig fuc-ers, so it would not be fair to kick her out of the contest.

        One thing's for sure, I hope Armenia does not get involved or sucked into this shame. Let these particular Turks embarrass themselves, we do not need to stoop that level and should not do so as a nation. The Greeks, Swedes and Dutch have spoken out against this shameful action and we should let them speak for us. It's more effective that way.

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        • #5
          Press Release: unacceptable behavior by eurovision-turkey website

          Page not found - Oiko Times
          http://www.oikotimes.com/site/index.php?id=4569



          Since few days complaints reach the websites of oikotimes.com, esctoday.com and escsweden.com about the content of the eurovision related fan website eurovision-turkey.com. The content of this website includes an anti-Armenian campaign on its columns. This idea and content is not endorsed by our websites this is why we asked its webmaster to withdraw the column. Despite of giving them a choice the team reacted heavily upon us.

          Today eurovision-turkey tried to abuse oikotimes.com reactions system by swearing and advertising the website. This is why we were forced to currently stop this service. Oikotimes.com also informed its partners about the content of this specific website and also TRT and Sibel Tuzun's team are informed. Waiting for some official responses, we ask our partners and friends to email us their support condemning the unacceptable behavior of the specific website.

          The specific web area also reproduces content of our website illegally. Therefore oikotimes.com will take legal actions against the webmaster of the website and furthermore to its team. We condemn their reaction and we will never endorse political conflicts within our websites. We kindly ask your support at our usual email. The emails received will be published.

          Kindly Yours
          The Oikotimes.com Team

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          The abuse that we have entailed from centuries of hatred by the Turks is revealing itself again in this competition. Even the country profile continues their ideological stance on the Armenian Genocide. I am dissapointed that Eurovision falls into the propaganda by stating such things as "Armenians claim" and "hundreds of thousands massacred." Leading parliaments, Holocaust scholars, thousands of history book affirm that the Armenian Genocide was the first genocidal attempt of race extermination which killed 1.5 million Armenians in death camps. It's sad that Eurovision bows down to Turkish bullying and distorts or downplays the history by carefully terming the events. Would you question the Holocaust of the Jews? I realize that the info. is from BBC, but Uk is among the countries that have military cooperations with Turkey and continually downplay the Genocide. Why could you not take your info. from the dozens of countries including the EU that officially recognize the Genocide? Now the endless envy and abuse by Azeris and Turks is continually experienced in this competition. They outrightly HATE Armenians. This is sytematic racism and you know it. This competition is becoming so frustrating. I feel so hurt everytime I check in for news. There is nothing worst than to feel the haunting effects of genocide and racism. Enough!

          Eurojoint (Israel, Netherlands, Greece)
          In the last couple of days members of the "EuroJoint" alliance received complains on political statements and links appearing on fan website eurovision-turkey.com. The content of the statement and link under the title "Armenian terror" linked to web sides dealing with issues that are far from the true spirit of the Eurovision Song Contest, and far from what members of "EuroJoint" see as fit with ESC coverage standards. Members of the "EuroJoint" alliance condemn any use of politics in such a un ethical way. We call upon " eurovision-turkey.com" to remove all political contents from its web site, and bring back the Armenian flag and country name, as an equal participant in the Eurovision Song Contest. We are here to be united, at least for one week in a year, as we believe and do in our "EuroJoint" alliance. During Eurovision week in Athens the "big 3 alliance" – Oikotimes (Greece) – EurovIL ( Israel) – Esctoday (Netherlands), will bring you the biggest and widest and objective ESC coverage ever.

          Escsweden.com cut the ties with turkish esc website
          One of the leading Eurovision Song Contests sites in Turkey has mixed politics with Eurovision in an unacceptable way. Thats why Escsweden.com now stops the partnership we joined with eurovision-turkey.com in 2004. On their frontpage they have a political column of Armenian Terror in wich they denies the genocide of armenians back in 1915 and continuing afend an another participating country in Eurovision Song Contest. We together with our other partners oikotimes.com and esctoday.com kindly asked eurovision-turkey.com to withdraw it´s political column on their website but sad to say with no result at all. So if they want to go on with this they can but without support from escsweden.com in the future. Now we´re searching for another turkish eurovision website that not involves politics in our belowed Eurovision, a site we can exchange music related news with and nothing else. It has also come to our knowledge that eurovision-turkey.com in their forum let visitors launched an unprecedented "war" against our partner oikotimes.com. This is a childish and absurd way of behaviour and doesen´t belong in a democracy and certainly not in Eurovision Song Contest. Escsweden.con condemns this and fully supports oikotimes.com.

          Eurovision Croatia
          This is really unacceptable behavior. They mix politic with music and in that way destroy good relationship between not only Turks and Armenians, and also between Turks and other people. So much hate between them... Because of that Eurovision-Croatia cut all the ties with turkish esc website in hope that they will think about that and remove that column. Also, we support our partner oikotimes.com in "war" what is started by eurovision-turkey.com.
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #6
            Press Release: OGAE Turkey condemns eurovision-turkey.com content

            Dear press members and Eurovision fans;

            Following the unfortunate links on Eurovision-Turkey web site,
            OGAE Turkey would like to take the opportunity to clarify its stance in regards to inclusion of politics within Eurovision Song Contest.
            OGAE Turkey, since it was established in 1996, has never been involved in any sort of political campaign against any nation or performer. We have a strong objection to any politically inclined move within Eurovision. Being a fan club of Eurovision, and music lovers, OGAE Turkey emphasizes the importance of keeping politics well away from a song contest.

            Eurovision Song Contest should be a peaceful music festival, aimed at uniting European nations, rather than spreading hatred.
            As we have always open heartedly welcomed all new participants to Eurovision, we express our gratitude for the Armenian participation and strongly believe that they will bring richness and diversity to Eurovision.

            Olcay Tanberken
            OGAE Turkey, President
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #7
              Just check the forums in oikotimes and you'll meet the regular Turks parroting the same garbage they do in all other forums. On top of that they claim the Armenian entry is based on Turkish music! One of them calls it an Ottoman melody and they perpetuate the same genocide denial garbage where they should talk about music.

              Someone tell them there is no such thing as Turkish music/culture. They have imitated the culture of the locals and have mixed Arab, Persian, Greek, Armenian, Balkan, Mediterranean, etc. music and on top of that the wailing singing which is the only thing Turkish about their music
              Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

              I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
              II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
              III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
              IV. They shut up and say nothing.

              [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hellektor
                Just check the forums in oikotimes and you'll meet the regular Turks parroting the same garbage they do in all other forums. On top of that they claim the Armenian entry is based on Turkish music! One of them calls it an Ottoman melody and they perpetuate the same genocide denial garbage where they should talk about music.

                Someone tell them there is no such thing as Turkish music/culture. They have imitated the culture of the locals and have mixed Arab, Persian, Greek, Armenian, Balkan, Mediterranean, etc. music and on top of that the wailing singing which is the only thing Turkish about their music
                Hellektor, I think you can create your own music/culture by taking elements from others and making it into your own original style. And Turkish music does have a certain vibe to it that is different from other music. So, while I think you are right that Turkish music is an amalgam of their neighbors, the combination is unique and good.

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                • #9
                  Throw Turkey out of Eurovision
                  Is it logical to throw a country like Turkey out of Eurovision?
                  By the way you are right to be angry about that site and so am I.They shouldn't have done that.(Armenian Terror Part)

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                  • #10
                    Turkish Culture

                    Originally posted by phantom
                    Hellektor, I think you can create your own music/culture by taking elements from others and making it into your own original style. And Turkish music does have a certain vibe to it that is different from other music. So, while I think you are right that Turkish music is an amalgam of their neighbors, the combination is unique and good.
                    phantom jan, being a musician myself, I have nothing against any culture or type of music. That everybody has an individual taste is another question.

                    What I said was in reaction to their claim that the Armenian entry was in fact Turkish music, meaning that the Armenians stole Turkish culture (projection).
                    What I'm implying is the Turks having stolen everything from the locals this side of the Caspian, instead of recognizing who they are and facing their ugly history, claim the universe.
                    You know very well they claim all the languages originated from Turkish and all the ancient peoples and civilizations including Sumerians, Aramaic, Hurrians, Hitites, Greeks, Parthians, Elamite, Manni, Mittani, Arrata, Medians, Urartu, Achaemenids, Lydians, Thracians, Aluanians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Accadians, Babylonians, Etruscans, Scythians, Eskimo, Native Americans, Martians, Saturnans, Jupiterians, Out of the Milky Wayans, Parallel Universians, Pre-Big Bangians, Residents of the Black Holes, the dinosaurs, the mammoths, the smilodons, the yetis, Adam, Noah, Mohammad, Jesus, Moses... and heaven knows what not, are all Turks.


                    Almost everything they have they owe it to the Armenians                    , yet they accuse us of stabbing our "masters" in the back and betraying our "nation" thus, deserving the punishment we got (for thank you for all we gave them!) in 1915.

                    All those mosques and palaces                     were built by Armenian architects and more importantly the Armenian architects defined the Ottoman architecture.

                    Even the Saint Sophia church which was NOT build by an Armenian, suffered heavily in an earthquake in the 10th century. The dome you see at present is the work of the Armenian architect Trdat who reconstructed the damaged church almost five centuries before Turks crushed Constantinople under their filthy cloven hoofs.

                    _________________________________
                    According to Mevlüt xxxdemir (Türk Ordusunun Tarihsel Kökenleri p.12, Ankara 1982.):
                    “All natural sciences emphasize the underdevelopment of the nomadic peoples. Their presence in cultural, artistic and intellectual areas is almost zilch. This is because the lifestyle of these peoples is not suited to develop such skills. It is almost unthinkable that people who are warring for an existence, can bother to spend time for other things. That’s why the economic component of war must be heavily stressed in the case of the Turks. The productivity of the nomads was insufficient to guarantee a necessary and secure living standard. This observation reveals that the productivity of the people fell far beneath the minimum level of demand. In order to stay alive, they needed supplementary income. To cover these needs war played an essential role.”
                    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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