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  • #11
    Originally posted by RUDO
    Is it logical to throw a country like Turkey out of Eurovision?
    By the way you are right to be angry about that site and so am I.They shouldn't have done that.(Armenian Terror Part)
    Dear Rudo, what I mean is that the Euroxxxs should be a little more demanding and WARN the Turkish Eurovision website that if they do not remove that hate section, they will be banned from the contest.

    A little bit more firmness than the pansy "reaction" from the xxxxxxs is what I legitimately expect.

    Of course they won't throw Turkey (who has absof***enlutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER the hell to do with Europe), their liebling sodomizers, out of the ESC and we all know it.
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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    • #12
      Look Sellektor,
      Dim your lights a bit, dont flash around, dont beg for attention and just be reseanable for a while.

      AS a Turk I do acknowledge Armenian contribution to Ottoman/Turkish culture. I dont think there are many Turks who wouldnt.

      But claiming that everything we have, we have to owe Armenians, is totally stupid and that can only be claimed individuals like yourself who are doomed to have inferiority complex towards us.
      And I would only say Hassss..tttt...rrrrr

      Originally posted by Hellektor
      You know very well they claim all the languages originated from Turkish and all the ancient peoples and civilizations including Sumerians, Aramaic, Hurrians, Hitites, Greeks, Parthians, Elamite, Manni, Mittani, Arrata, Medians, Urartu, Achaemenids, Lydians, Thracians, Aluanians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Accadians, Babylonians, Etruscans, Scythians, Eskimo, Native Americans, Martians, Saturnans, Jupiterians, Out of the Milky Wayans, Parallel Universians, Pre-Big Bangians, Residents of the Black Holes, the dinosaurs, the mammoths, the smilodons, the yetis, Adam, Noah, Mohammad, Jesus, Moses... and heaven knows what not, are all Turks.


      Almost everything they have they owe it to the Armenians
      , yet they accuse us of stabbing our "masters" in the back and betraying our "nation" thus, deserving the punishment we got (for thank you for all we gave them!) in 1915.

      All those mosques and palaces
      were built by Armenian architects and more importantly the Armenian architects defined the Ottoman architecture.

      Even the Saint Sophia church which was NOT build by an Armenian, suffered heavily in an earthquake in the 10th century. The dome you see at present is the work of the Armenian architect Trdat who reconstructed the damaged church almost five centuries before Turks crushed Constantinople under their filthy cloven hoofs.

      _________________________________
      According to Mevlüt xxxdemir (Türk Ordusunun Tarihsel Kökenleri p.12, Ankara 1982.):
      “All natural sciences emphasize the underdevelopment of the nomadic peoples. Their presence in cultural, artistic and intellectual areas is almost zilch. This is because the lifestyle of these peoples is not suited to develop such skills. It is almost unthinkable that people who are warring for an existence, can bother to spend time for other things. That’s why the economic component of war must be heavily stressed in the case of the Turks. The productivity of the nomads was insufficient to guarantee a necessary and secure living standard. This observation reveals that the productivity of the people fell far beneath the minimum level of demand. In order to stay alive, they needed supplementary income. To cover these needs war played an essential role.”

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Hellektor
        Dear Rudo, what I mean is that the Euroxxxs should be a little more demanding and WARN the Turkish Eurovision website that if they do not remove that hate section, they will be banned from the contest.

        A little bit more firmness than the pansy "reaction" from the xxxxxxs is what I legitimately expect.

        Of course they won't throw Turkey (who has absof***enlutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER the hell to do with Europe), their liebling sodomizers, out of the ESC and we all know it.
        Ok.I see your point.Thanks for explanation.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by TurQ
          Look Sellektor,
          Dim your lights a bit, dont flash around, dont beg for attention and just be reseanable for a while.
          An advice, don't give a ffffffffffffffffff to what I say.

          Originally posted by TurQ
          AS a Turk I do acknowledge Armenian contribution to Ottoman/Turkish culture. I dont think there are many Turks who wouldnt.

          But claiming that everything we have, we have to owe Armenians, is totally stupid and that can only be claimed individuals like yourself who are doomed to have inferiority complex towards us.
          Originally posted by Hellektor

          Almost everything they have they owe it to the Armenians
          , yet they accuse us of stabbing our "masters" in the back and betraying our "nation" thus, deserving the punishment we got (for thank you for all we gave them!) in 1915.

          All those mosques and palaces
          were built by Armenian architects and more importantly the Armenian architects defined the Ottoman architecture.
          Read this once more, It's a Turk who's saying it:
          According to Mevlüt xxxdemir (Türk Ordusunun Tarihsel Kökenleri p.12, Ankara 1982.):
          “All natural sciences emphasize the underdevelopment of the nomadic peoples. Their presence in cultural, artistic and intellectual areas is almost zilch. This is because the lifestyle of these peoples is not suited to develop such skills. It is almost unthinkable that people who are warring for an existence, can bother to spend time for other things. That’s why the economic component of war must be heavily stressed in the case of the Turks. The productivity of the nomads was insufficient to guarantee a necessary and secure living standard. This observation reveals that the productivity of the people fell far beneath the minimum level of demand. In order to stay alive, they needed supplementary income. To cover these needs war played an essential role.”


          Originally posted by TurQ
          And I would only say Hassss..tttt...rrrrr
          Can you spell this out completely? Because I really don't know what it means.
          If it's the punchline of your post it's a shame it's spoiled
          Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

          I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
          II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
          III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
          IV. They shut up and say nothing.

          [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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          • #15
            Do you think that BIG ALMOST makes you lesser of a stupid or more of a stupid.

            Just a reminder, Turks were last nomads(And some of them)like around 11th century. Quite a while I believe. They have established important and magnificinet states. It is your problem of being ignorant.

            Yes Balian was a great architect, Sinan was master of architects(And I learned he is of Greek origin, I too thought he was Armenian), but it is the silliest thing to give their talent to their genes or their ethnic origin. Sure their Armenian culture was part of it, their bringing up what they have learned from their families definetly part of their talent. But they were the sons of Ottoman/Istanbul culture. Like everyone else they were part of that culture and took lots of things from that culture as well as they have contributed it. And they are not the only architects in Ottoman state.

            Your problem is that you still see things thru ethnicity or nationalism that was defined in 19th century. Do you think that Balian was saying, you see Armenians are great architects we are the only masters? he was the child of his age, his society and Ottoman culture. People like you who have this particular type of inferiority complex can only claim that ALMOST everything we have is of Armenian origin.

            Originally posted by Hellektor
            An advise, don't give a ffffffffffffffffff to what I say.




            Read this once more, It's a Turk who's saying it:
            According to Mevlüt xxxdemir (Türk Ordusunun Tarihsel Kökenleri p.12, Ankara 1982.):
            “All natural sciences emphasize the underdevelopment of the nomadic peoples. Their presence in cultural, artistic and intellectual areas is almost zilch. This is because the lifestyle of these peoples is not suited to develop such skills. It is almost unthinkable that people who are warring for an existence, can bother to spend time for other things. That’s why the economic component of war must be heavily stressed in the case of the Turks. The productivity of the nomads was insufficient to guarantee a necessary and secure living standard. This observation reveals that the productivity of the people fell far beneath the minimum level of demand. In order to stay alive, they needed supplementary income. To cover these needs war played an essential role.”



            Can you spell this out completely? Because I really don't know what it means.
            If it's the punchline of your post it's a shame it's spoiled

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            • #16
              Oh By the way there other things that Turks would say, obviously you didnt understandd and ask for additional spelling!

              Originally posted by Hellektor
              An advice, don't give a ffffffffffffffffff to what I say.




              Read this once more, It's a Turk who's saying it:
              According to Mevlüt xxxdemir (Türk Ordusunun Tarihsel Kökenleri p.12, Ankara 1982.):
              “All natural sciences emphasize the underdevelopment of the nomadic peoples. Their presence in cultural, artistic and intellectual areas is almost zilch. This is because the lifestyle of these peoples is not suited to develop such skills. It is almost unthinkable that people who are warring for an existence, can bother to spend time for other things. That’s why the economic component of war must be heavily stressed in the case of the Turks. The productivity of the nomads was insufficient to guarantee a necessary and secure living standard. This observation reveals that the productivity of the people fell far beneath the minimum level of demand. In order to stay alive, they needed supplementary income. To cover these needs war played an essential role.”



              Can you spell this out completely? Because I really don't know what it means.
              If it's the punchline of your post it's a shame it's spoiled

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              • #17
                Hellektor, he's trying to say "Haaaa siktir", which means fuc- off. Just so you know, when you say it in Turkish, it's not as offensive as it sounds in English for some reason. You can even say it to your close friends "ha siktir ulan" and they won't be offended.

                I don't think we can take credit for everything the Turks have as part of their culture and accomplishments. They took some things from others too: Greeks, Assyrians, Persians, Kurds, Arabs, etc. come to mind. It is extremely annoying, however, when Turks claim to own things they have no business claiming. For example, all of those Turks at the EuroVision websites that complain that Andre's song is actually "Ottoman" or "Turkish" are total idiots. But guess what, it doesn't hurt us when they act stupid like that. If you notice on those forums, others come to Andre's defense before even any Armenian can do it. Europeans are used to this childish and insecure behavior coming from some Turks.

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                • #18
                  TURKISH ARCHITECTURE

                  Turkish* Yurt:

                  Bear and horse skin make up the walls and most of the interior. Sitting directly in front of the yurt are two wooden staffs (sometimes metallic, depending on the owner's wealth) protruding from the ground. A dog skull on each adorns the staffs. These, contrary to popula belief, are not used as warnings or as threats. They are merely decorative furnishings. The more richer and famous Turks prefer using bear skulls but the common man usually uses the wild dog, coyote, fox, but never the wolf. In the Turkish culture it is considered sacrilage to use the wolf skull. The ancient Turks (by ancient I mean from 500 A.D.) worshipped the 'Mighty Wolf' who they claimed granted them supernatural abilities to defeat their opponents. Even though the Turks' main religion is considered Islam, much animalistic paganism (wolf worship to be exact) is found throughtout their custumes and beliefs.

                  So it would be considered almost heresy to behead a wolf and use it as a decorative furnishing. There is a very old Turkish tradition that states:

                  "If any man should kill the Mighty Grey Wolf of the Woods may his genitals be placed beneath a huge boulder for three nights. After his punishment has been served he is to be raped untill death by 5 Turkish officers."

                  The only allowance in Turkish Wolf furnishings is that a member of the Grey Wolves CAN decorate his yurt with a maximum of two. Since he himself is considered a leader to the wolves (human and beast variants) he has the right to duel one (the wolf) for leadership and if he is found to be the victor (by killing the wolf using teeth and nails only) he is obligated to adorn his yurt with one. At least once in a Grey Wolf leaders life a Wolf skull MUST be hung from his house.

                  Other characteristics of these yurts is the exclusion of toilets and rooms for bathing, unlike the Mongolian Yurts from 400 A.D. which had both.

                  Instead the Turkish man actually does his business on the dirt floor of the yurt. The sh*t is then left there for a minimun of one Turkish week** (which is 5 days in a normal week). The flies and filth that accumulates there is almost like a entertainment for these Turks. The Village Chieftain inspects each load to see which is filthier. The winner of the contest (the man who had the filthier sh*t) then gets the privledge of fighting a Turkish guard till the death. The only way a victor is chosen is when one man has threaded the other man's testicles.

                  Despite the winner, the women is forced to clean the sh*t after about 3 Turkish weeks (which consititue a Turkish month).

                  Now we move onto the Turkish Palace....

                  The Yurt Palace:

                  Unlike the Turkish Yurt, the Turkish Yurt Palace is more grande and spectacular to the eyes. Ignoring its wretched smell (it is TRULY wretched, the yurt smells like ass so you can can just imagine how much worse this smells!) it a the wonder of the Turkish world. The walls are made out of petrified dog sh*t (it seems there is an obsession with sh*t and wolfish animals in this culture) and monkey blood is usually thrown about the walls and floor. About every Turkish year (which is 9 Turkish months equaling a total of 135 days a Turkish year) this ritual is preformed.

                  The celebration is quite exquisite but also very bloody. The whole festival begins with fights to the death between Village warriors and several bears (usually 5 warriors vs. 2 bears). After the fight the remaining living warriors are instructed to have sex with the Chieftains daughter all at the same time. If the chieftain has no daughter, then a young boy takes the girl's place.

                  During this time, the monekys are executed in a barabarious way. The high priests crush their heads with their bare hands. They are blooded and the blood is consumed by the warriors after their rape. The rest of the blood is poured all over the palace. Then in the next 10 minutes all havoc is let loose. To please their god Allah, the Turks start killing everyone they see, not even relative are spared. After the high priest says Allah is pleased everything goes back to normal and the rest of the night is spent in raiding nearby villages and cities.

                  The Yurt Palace also has 4 metallic staffs with one bear on each and occasionally moneky and dog heads for extra beauty.

                  Inside the palace, all kinds of sick and twisted sexual perversions go on...so I will spare the reader of the horrors! My suggestion: stay the hell away from the palace, lest you be forced to take part in these things!

                  So there you have it. The great Turkish culture, architecture, and its people.

                  * Turkish yurt is actually a degraded Mongolian yurt. The Turks have never really invented anything, even the spears they occasionally use all have come into use from outside villages. The Mongolian yurt looks like a palace made of gold compared to the Turkish ones.

                  The Turks use their own calanders. Not much is known on why, though. Most people can't even believe these people could count, never mind make a calender!

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                  • #19
                    Source please?
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #20
                      Ambassador Henry Morgenthau's assessment of Turkish culture.

                      He wrote : "Such graces of civilization as the Turk has acquired in five centuries have practically all been taken from the subject peoples whom he so greatly despises. His religion comes from the Arabs; his language has acquired a certain literary value by borrowing certain Arabic and Persian elements; and his writing is Arabic. Constantinople's finest architectural monument, the Mosque of St. Sophia, was originally a Christian church, and all so-called Turkish architecture is derived from the Byzantine. The mechanism of business and industry has always rested in the hands of the subject peoples, Greeks, Jews, Armenians, and Arabs. The Turks have learned little of European art or science, they have established very few educational institutions, and illiteracy is the prevailing rule,"

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