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  • #41
    Losing hope of yeniçeri's "sincerity"

    Originally posted by yeniçeri
    ...I must add that history is such a dicipline that it is beyond state control and very open to abusement. State policies sometimes try to hide something in history, sometimes try to exaggarate things as we see in your case and in our case.

    ...What is genocide? Why have all these bad events immigration and death has been lived? Do the things that were lived in the past fit exactly to the term genocide?

    ...And what are the characteristics of comitee of union and progress? Please why answering to these questions can somebody answer with a wider and thorough knowledge about the events and facts. It again makes me sad while talking about history some grab the only knowledge they need from ottoman history, about CUP and Atatürk

    ...If we are to observe historical events and also if we are to make a conclusion about armenian case we all should then know the situation of ottoman empire at 1915. Can you define me the position of Ottoman empire in 1915?
    I gave yeniçeri the benefit of the doubt in the first reply to his post, but I knew he was playing around.
    He doesn't want to know about the Armenian Genocide.
    He is not willing to read a book about the Armenian Genocide, otherwise he wouldn't keep asking questions answered a zillion x trillion x billion times in zillions of existing documents.

    It's pretty obvious what you say is for interior consumption (in Turkey that is), and no Armenian (or non-Turk, informed of the issue that is) will buy your beating around the bush.
    I have already told you this in a previous reply:
    "The Turks wiped out the entire Christian Armenian population of Turkish occupied Armenia."
    I have to add to that even if not a single eyewitness or survivor account had reached us, it still wouldn't change that obvious fact.

    Originally posted by yeniçeri
    yes I have the blue book and I read it but I dont want to talk all the time about these because then I am afraid the conversation will turn into "you did this then we did this because you did that". You dont ask yourself "why"s you only want to see your facts.
    Then read it carefully, all your questions are answered there.

    Originally posted by yeniçeri
    ...second Turkey is not the inheritor of Ottoman Empire.

    ...you should keep in mind the fact that Turkey is the inheritor of ottomans as far as armenians are.
    No comment.
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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