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  • #11
    Ottoman,

    Originally posted by Ottoman
    The poverty and unemployment are the main problems.
    FAR is one of the leading Armenian charitable organizations, offering humanitarian aid, development support, and educational opportunities to empower Armenians and foster sustainable development.



    Originally posted by Ottoman
    There is no free elections.
    Wrong.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Ottoman
      Dear Armenian Nationalists.
      You may be right that we should not be here.
      Not if you've come to preach or spread lies and disinformation or to make gullible people think forget the AG, let's just be friends.

      But the amoung things that you should focus on is the real independence of Armenia.The borders are protected by Russian Army.There a lot of Russian military bases.
      That's a good thing, we'll take all they can spare.

      The poverty and unemployment are the main problems.There is no free elections.
      Now you sound just like the US State Dept. or Soros and company. We will thank you to mind your business and worry about your own stinking government and massive human rights abuses.

      The true nationalism orders you to have an independent country.I respect your love to Armenia.But you should do your compulsary duties to your country.
      Tell us something we don't already know.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Backstabbed
        Parev friend!

        Wasnt this forum created to debate the Genocide with Turkish denialists?

        Lol, if this place was to accept only those who agree with Armenians then whats the point of this discussion forum? Debate is healthy, it brings people closer together.

        With Jewish people, its a bit different. I'm sure you know that Holocaust denialists are for the most part violent skinheads and neo-nazis, thats why debate is not tolerated. Also, the Jewish Holocaust was addmitted by the German government and the German people. Therefore, debating the Jewish Holocaust is pointless, it only reveals the hostile intent of the denialist.

        We, on the other hand, must do everything possible to reach the Turkish people with our message. We have to do this in order for them to see that their government has not been telling them the truth. That is why men like Adom Egoyan and Andrew Goldberg are modern day Armenian heros.

        I salute them.

        Shalom


        Truly spoken
        Understanding=Acceptance
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Backstabbed
          Parev friend!

          Wasnt this forum created to debate the Genocide with Turkish denialists?

          Lol, if this place was to accept only those who agree with Armenians then whats the point of this discussion forum? Debate is healthy, it brings people closer together.

          With Jewish people, its a bit different. I'm sure you know that Holocaust denialists are for the most part violent skinheads and neo-nazis, thats why debate is not tolerated. Also, the Jewish Holocaust was addmitted by the German government and the German people. Therefore, debating the Jewish Holocaust is pointless, it only reveals the hostile intent of the denialist.

          We, on the other hand, must do everything possible to reach the Turkish people with our message. We have to do this in order for them to see that their government has not been telling them the truth. That is why men like Adom Egoyan and Andrew Goldberg are modern day Armenian heros.

          I salute them.

          Shalom

          Hello, Parev, Shalom or what ever!
          Excuse me but I don’t think you are an Armenian, I think the only thing you know about Armenians is the word “Parev” that’s all, so please stop pretending to be one and push your TARC agenda on us, Are you Friend of that Mutafian guy? Because you’re talking exactly like him.
          And may I ask who stabbed your back? I’m asking this because of your username.
          Could you also write some Armenian words as you were doing by writing to that David guy in Jewish or Hebrew or Yiddish whatever you people call it.
          By the way this avatar is much better then the previous one, I was beginning to think you were my lost brother.

          (“Shalom” “Mashlomkha” only words I know in Hebrew)

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          • #15
            Bye ! I am leaving this forum....

            Originally posted by Krunchy
            Not if you've come to preach or spread lies and disinformation or to make gullible people think forget the AG, let's just be friends.



            That's a good thing, we'll take all they can spare.



            Now you sound just like the US State Dept. or Soros and company. We will thank you to mind your business and worry about your own stinking government and massive human rights abuses.



            Tell us something we don't already know.
            These are my sincere thoughts about being a nationalist.My aim was not insulting you. We should also fight againsts US bases,poverty,unemployment,human rights abuses in Turkey.

            You already know everything.So I will not write anything anymore....

            I should find out another forum where they believe Armenian and Turkish people are equal human beings and brothers.We will and should have a
            dialogue.Without putting everything on to table , we are hopeless...
            I look for people who have the same dreams with me , a bit romantic.

            Thanks for you for tolerance upto now...
            I should excuse for my unintendend insultings if there is any.(and also for my bad English)
            Sorry for disturbance.

            Best Wishes

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Ottoman
              These are my sincere thoughts about being a nationalist.My aim was not insulting you. We should also fight againsts US bases,poverty,unemployment,human rights abuses in Turkey.

              You already know everything.So I will not write anything anymore....

              I should find out another forum where they believe Armenian and Turkish people are equal human beings and brothers.We will and should have a
              dialogue.Without putting everything on to table , we are hopeless...
              I look for people who have the same dreams with me , a bit romantic.

              Thanks for you for tolerance upto now...
              I should excuse for my unintendend insultings if there is any.(and also for my bad English)
              Sorry for disturbance.

              Best Wishes
              Ohhh poor you…!, you got offended? We are so sorry….., If your intentions were as you say then you joined this forum with a very wrong username. that username alone is an insult to all Armenians and I’m pretty sure you chose it intentionally, so spare me the sarcasm and stop playing the poor innocent butcher.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by DHolyGhost
                Ohhh poor you…!, you got offended? We are so sorry….., If your intentions were as you say then you joined this forum with a very wrong username. that username alone is an insult to all Armenians and I’m pretty sure you chose it intentionally, so spare me the sarcasm and stop playing the poor innocent butcher.
                I haven't killed anybody.
                I am not a butcher.
                But with this hate , you are ready to become a butcher.

                You Armenians are very fragile to be insulted,
                But not sensitive to other side.

                I am proud of the Ottomans.
                Our and your grandfathers were citizen of Ottomans lived in peace together for a thousand years.I am very sorry about the incidents in WWI.Even with the existance of people like you , i have hope for the future.

                I got my lesson, friend !

                God bless you !
                Allahaismarladik !
                Bye!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Ottoman
                  Dear Armenian Nationalists.
                  You may be right that we should not be here.
                  But the amoung things that you should focus on is the real independence of Armenia.The borders are protected by Russian Army.There a lot of Russian military bases.The poverty and unemployment are the main problems.There is no free elections.The true nationalism orders you to have an independent country.I respect your love to Armenia.But you should do your compulsary duties to your country.

                  Interesting points you brought up about Armenia.

                  Russian troops are stationed in Armenia to assist in guarding the border with Turkey. Remember, Turkey threatened to invade Armenia in 1993. Armenia chooses to have good relations with Russians knowing that even though they are far from being best friends, they are the lesser of all evils in the region and will always be involved with regional developments.

                  Poverty and unemployment are certainly the largest issues but gradually the situation is getting better, no thanks to the blockade from you know who.

                  The Elections are certainly flawed but compared to the rest of the former Soviet Union, not nearly as bad as say...Azerbaijan.

                  Armenians do compulsory military service.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Backstabbed
                    Parev friend!

                    Wasnt this forum created to debate the Genocide with Turkish denialists?

                    Lol, if this place was to accept only those who agree with Armenians then whats the point of this discussion forum? Debate is healthy, it brings people closer together.

                    With Jewish people, its a bit different. I'm sure you know that Holocaust denialists are for the most part violent skinheads and neo-nazis, thats why debate is not tolerated. Also, the Jewish Holocaust was addmitted by the German government and the German people. Therefore, debating the Jewish Holocaust is pointless, it only reveals the hostile intent of the denialist.

                    We, on the other hand, must do everything possible to reach the Turkish people with our message. We have to do this in order for them to see that their government has not been telling them the truth. That is why men like Adom Egoyan and Andrew Goldberg are modern day Armenian heros.

                    I salute them.

                    Shalom

                    As I've written so many times before. This forum is not for a debate over whether the Armenian Genocide was genocide. The point of this forum is to exchange information regarding the genocide, as a clearing house for information.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ottoman
                      I haven't killed anybody.
                      I am not a butcher.
                      But with this hate , you are ready to become a butcher.

                      You Armenians are very fragile to be insulted,
                      But not sensitive to other side.

                      I am proud of the Ottomans.
                      Our and your grandfathers were citizen of Ottomans lived in peace together for a thousand years.I am very sorry about the incidents in WWI.Even with the existance of people like you , i have hope for the future.

                      I got my lesson, friend !

                      God bless you !
                      Allahaismarladik !
                      Bye!
                      Allahısmarladık!!!

                      Kendine iyi bak!!!

                      Bye!!!

                      Take care!!!

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