and 10 points goes to .. Armenia.

[TurQ]

International politics and song constests are quite different , in case you dont know

The same way Greece gave you many points, today you violated their airspace. It's unlikely to get some trust by this so-called charm-offensive of you dear "Nationalist".

Oh and Germany gave 12 points to Turkey, even when the Turks have made their garbage a country and sucked all their taxes. Now you should kiss the ass of Germany I think. BTW: Don't get too excited, most Germans still want you or your villagers to get the hell out of their country.

[kerkuk_kurdista]

Greek airspace and blackwaters are 6 miles, there's no treaty between Turkey and Greece says otherwise. Not only Turkey but also Russia and other countries accept that international waters begin 6 miles off the Greek islands. They know they will never ever make it 12 miles but dont step back.
It is only according to PKK militants and your sort who once taken care off by Greek intelleigence agency agonize over such incidents. Its a self claimed by Greece noone else, otherwise EU who Greece is part of would be the first to react so called countless TUrkish violations of so called 12 miles Greek airspace.

Funny thing is you guys really believe what you say.

As usual the vulgar Turkish style of replying.
Even if the 12 nautical mile border was accepted by Greece, the planes flew over Karpathos and people in the island have heard the explosion loud. Once again Turkish jealousy showed it's dirty face today and could not just stay home, where it already has enough conflicts and wars.
Down with Turkish state TERROR!!!

[kerkuk_kurdista]

International politics and song constests are quite different , in case you dont know

Tell that to the topic starter , by the way the votes were also mainly politically motivated (hence Cyprus giving 12 points to Greece). Thus the topic starter should know Turks and the Turkish government cannot be trusted, certainly not by a Eurovision contest. How generous of the Greeks they let the Turkish team enter the hall.

[Hovik]

Hmm could you therefore be kind enough to use the same feature of this forum at the time when a denalist comes rather then repeating the copy-paste garbage that you are parotting? Just a counter-advice...

We don't IGNORE denialists, we BAN them. Keep that in mind. If you want to participate in a forum that allows denialism, try finding one... aint gonna happen here...

[TurQ]

Greece should stop its claims in Agean sea. Thats one stupidity they had started and now they cant stop it eventhough they know that they can not ever have the 12 mile. They'll keep on agitating their nation that Turkey is violating their air space. They know we'll never ever agree on 12 mile thing, why are they trying to force it? When they stop this childish claims, you'll see Turkish planes would not get closer more than 12 miles, since Greece insists we have to show that we dont agree with them.

Greece(and PKK) are alone on this matter, sorry, you have to cope with being loneliness(like in the geico ad).

As usual the vulgar Turkish style of replying.
Even if the 12 nautical mile border was accepted by Greece, the planes flew over Karpathos and people in the island have heard the explosion loud. Once again Turkish jealousy showed it's dirty face today and could not just stay home, where it already has enough conflicts and wars.
Down with Turkish state TERROR!!!

[TurQ]

Eurovision itself is a retarded contest.
The behaviour of south Cypriots just show what they are.
The Turkish 10 points to Armenia shows that Turks dont have prejuidice towards Armenians at least the way the Greek cypriots present their prejuidice towards us. Turks voted to Armenian contestant just becuase they loved the music and they have seen common sounds and traces of common heritage in their music.

Tell that to the topic starter , by the way the votes were also mainly politically motivated (hence Cyprus giving 12 points to Greece). Thus the topic starter should know Turks and the Turkish government cannot be trusted, certainly not by a Eurovision contest. How generous of the Greeks they let the Turkish team enter the hall.

[Joseph]

Eurovision itself is a retarded contest.
The behaviour of south Cypriots just show what they are.
The Turkish 10 points to Armenia shows that Turks dont have prejuidice towards Armenians at least the way the Greek cypriots present their prejuidice towards us. Turks voted to Armenian contestant just becuase they loved the music and they have seen common sounds and traces of common heritage in their music.

I agree that the Eurovision competition is a joke. People watch the competition for the unintentional comedy.

[Hovik]

Turks voted to Armenian contestant just becuase they loved the music and they have seen common sounds and traces of common heritage in their music.

No offense, but where do you think those common sounds came from?

[Hovik]

The Turkish 10 points to Armenia shows that Turks dont have prejuidice towards Armenians

They have plenty of prejudice towards Armenians like their "land is ours because borders change all the time, while in the same breath supporting Azerbaijan when we won a war that Azerbaijan started and claimed those lands... (ex: http://www.armeniangenocide.com/foru...&postcount=573 )

[TurQ]

900+ common heritage, living in same society. Producing common culture etc.

We are always mistaken if we try to understand the nationailty and ethnicity perception of those times with 20th century's perception of ethnic identity.
Armenians and Turks lived togather and their culture and music were developed in time togather.

But people like Hellektor and his sort would always claim that Turks "stole" from Armenians in order NOT to see this common heritage.

No offense, but where do you think those common sounds came from?