and 10 points goes to .. Armenia.

[TurQ]

I meant Turks could make a clear distinction of a political dispute with a music contest.

They have plenty of prejudice towards Armenians like their "land is ours because borders change all the time, while in the same breath supporting Azerbaijan when we won a war that Azerbaijan started and claimed those lands... (ex: http://www.armeniangenocide.com/foru...&postcount=573 )

[kerkuk_kurdista]

Greece should stop its claims in Agean sea. Thats one stupidity they had started and now they cant stop it eventhough they know that they can not ever have the 12 mile. They'll keep on agitating their nation that Turkey is violating their air space. They know we'll never ever agree on 12 mile thing, why are they trying to force it? When they stop this childish claims, you'll see Turkish planes would not get closer more than 12 miles, since Greece insists we have to show that we dont agree with them.

Greece(and PKK) are alone on this matter, sorry, you have to cope with being loneliness(like in the geico ad).

Yeah I would like to see your face when this changes. Maybe I'll take a visit to Greece with Kurdistan Airlines next week. Turkey not allowing Kurdish planes enter it's airspace gives Greece a good opportunity. Athens letting us using their airports is a big slap in the face of Turkey.
I think I'll take my Greek girlfriend with me.
(PS: Now your Nazi feelings are going to think it's offensive that Kurdistan Airlines operates in Greece, it's the most natural thing )

[TurQ]

Well, get your facts straight my friend. Turkey has scheduled flights to northern Iraq everyday. You somehow have the false idea that there is no relation between Kurds of Northern Iraq and Turkey. Actually Kurds of Northern iraq are dependant to Turkey. Their electricity comes from Turkey, majority of their goods comes from Turkey. Turkey has stationed military personell within Northern Iraq for years.
Community leaders in Northern Iraq are not against Turkey. They do business with TUrkish companies. It's obvious that you are not either from northern Iraq or you are not a Kurd.

Yeah I would like to see your face when this changes. Maybe I'll take a visit to Greece with Kurdistan Airlines next week. Turkey not allowing Kurdish planes enter it's airspace gives Greece a good opportunity. Athens letting us using their airports is a big slap in the face of Turkey.
I think I'll take my Greek girlfriend with me.
(PS: Now your Nazi feelings are going to think it's offensive that Kurdistan Airlines operates in Greece, it's the most natural thing )

[TurQ]

http://www.krg.org/articles/article_detail.asp?showsecondimage=&RubricNr=75&ArticleNr=8129

I would like to see you face, may be you would like to fly norhtern iraq with the Turkish airliner "Fly Air"(hehe I dont buy you're a Kurd from Northern Iraq but keep on)

Yeah I would like to see your face when this changes. Maybe I'll take a visit to Greece with Kurdistan Airlines next week. Turkey not allowing Kurdish planes enter it's airspace gives Greece a good opportunity. Athens letting us using their airports is a big slap in the face of Turkey.
I think I'll take my Greek girlfriend with me.
(PS: Now your Nazi feelings are going to think it's offensive that Kurdistan Airlines operates in Greece, it's the most natural thing )

[kerkuk_kurdista]

Well, get your facts straight my friend. Turkey has scheduled flights to northern Iraq everyday. You somehow have the false idea that there is no relation between Kurds of Northern Iraq and Turkey. Actually Kurds of Northern iraq are dependant to Turkey. Their electricity comes from Turkey, majority of their goods comes from Turkey. Turkey has stationed military personell within Northern Iraq for years.
Community leaders in Northern Iraq are not against Turkey. They do business with TUrkish companies. It's obvious that you are not either from northern Iraq or you are not a Kurd.

I said KURDISTAN AIRLINES is not allowed in Turkey, I don't give a xxxx about Fly Air or Kebab Air.
Iraqi Kurdistan and Turkey have some relations yes, nobody denies that.
Bytheway, Turkey will be more dependent of Iraqi Kurdistan than vice versa, last week another oil field was found capable of producing an amount of barrels a day equal to the whole oil production of Turkey.
I agree some Electricity (mainly from dams built on Kurdish soil) is bought from Turkey, however, this is changing by the minute. Have you seen the power plant projects. By the way, this is not something special. In Europe all the countries get electricity from eachother for some money.
Turkey has 1500 troops primarly to engage into PKK positions, as they were asked by Kurdish factions themselves. Now it's time to kick their asses to Istanbul or Antalya. Also, ask yourself why Turkey is not isolating Iraqi Kurdistan just like Armenia, because the oil pipeline come from KURDISTAN!!!! And without that pipeline, Turkey is DOOMED!! Ceyhan will be a rat harbor. Turkish companies do business there yes, sadly, but it's good to use them as toilet and kitchen washers, as they are used to be in the rest of the world.

[TurQ]

You're caught with panties. You're trying to prove some nazi stories with Turks and Turkey. Turkey does not recognize (and nobody does BTW) an official Kurdish state in northern Iraq(even your Greece).
Unless you're not retard you wouldnt insist on this nazi stories. And if you are not nazi yourself you would see the historical, cultural and religous ties that an ordinary Northern Iraqi Kurd and an average Turkish citizen has.

I said KURDISTAN AIRLINES is not allowed in Turkey, I don't give a xxxx about Fly Air or Kebab Air.
Iraqi Kurdistan and Turkey have some relations yes, nobody denies that.
Bytheway, Turkey will be more dependent of Iraqi Kurdistan than vice versa, last week another oil field was found capable of producing an amount of barrels a day equal to the whole oil production of Turkey.
I agree some Electricity (mainly from dams built on Kurdish soil) is bought from Turkey, however, this is changing by the minute. Have you seen the power plant projects. By the way, this is not something special. In Europe all the countries get electricity from eachother for some money.
Turkey has 1500 troops primarly to engage into PKK positions, as they were asked by Kurdish factions themselves. Now it's time to kick their asses to Istanbul or Antalya. Also, ask yourself why Turkey is not isolating Iraqi Kurdistan just like Armenia, because the oil pipeline come from KURDISTAN!!!! And without that pipeline, Turkey is DOOMED!! Ceyhan will be a rat harbor. Turkish companies do business there yes, sadly, but it's good to use them as toilet and kitchen washers, as they are used to be in the rest of the world.

[kerkuk_kurdista]

Turkey does not recognize (and nobody does BTW) an official Kurdish state in northern Iraq(even your Greece).

Did I mention an Independent Kurdish state? I said Iraqi Kurdistan all the time, and it's officially Iraqi Kurdistan.
I don't give a damn Turkey does not recognize a Kurdish state in the future, better for us. No Turk products anymore, a good way through Iraq(maybe Sunnistan) and the new Syria and Iran, plus the Gulf which is hungry as a dog for Kurdish prosperity now.
By the way, I hope Kurdistan won't recognize Turkey too, maybe we should designate it as Donkey instead of Turkey.
As for Greece they are our true allies and their president last week defended Kurds. Also they gave Ocalan a passport and helped him, sadly his escape became fatal. Of course without mossad assistance and CIA knowledge the MIT would be digging some flee graves then. What a shame, 600 years ottoman killings, stealing from other countries and forced labour ,still your country needs Israeli (ONLY 58 YEARS OLD!! lol) assistance, equipment, military traning.

Unless you're not retard you wouldnt insist on this nazi stories. And if you are not nazi yourself you would see the historical, cultural and religous ties that an ordinary Northern Iraqi Kurd and an average Turkish citizen has.

The only ties a Turkish citizen and a Southern Kurdistani have is that both use Turkish slaves to wash their bathrooms and kitchens.
By the way, Nazism is popular in Turkey, Mein Kampff was the best sold book there, so bye bye mister Himmler Ataturd. "Peace at world, peace at the toilet", maybe he learned you all of this Turkish profession.

[Hovik]

TurQ, are you denying that Mein Kampf is a bestseller in Turkey?

[TurQ]

And what does that indicate? There are other best sellers in Turkey, including Orhan Pamuk's books..

Are Turks supposed to be admirers of Hitler who promote German race supremacy and who thought Turks to be inferior nation?

TurQ, are you denying that Mein Kampf is a bestseller in Turkey?

[HayerMiacek]

Why is Mein Kampf a bestseller in Turkey?
By Associated Press March 19, 2005

In Turkish bookshops, there's one best seller that some book shops are hesitant to put on the shelves next to the rest.

New paperback versions of Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" have suddenly become top sellers in Turkey, raising questions about whether the sales reflect growing anti-Semitism and anti-American sentiment in this Muslim country, or if it's just curiosity and a cheap read.

The books were printed without the permission of the Finance Ministry of the German state of Bavaria, which handles the book's copyright. The ministry said Friday that it had asked Germany's federal Foreign Ministry to instruct diplomats in Turkey to investigate possible lawsuits in an attempt to prevent the continued publication of the books.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf -- "My Struggle" -- in the 1920s, filling it with anti-Semitic diatribes and his strategy for world domination.

Tens of thousands of copies of the book have sold in Turkey in recent months since at least two cheap paperback versions were released.

Many people are not sure why they're such hot sellers.

Analysts point out that many in this Muslim country are angry over the violence between Israelis and their fellow Muslim Palestinians. There is also increased frustration with U.S. policy in neighboring Iraq and in general in the region. Some say the book sales are a reaction to Turkey's bid to join the European Union.

But others point out that the book can be purchased for as little as 6 new Turkish lira ($4.50) and many Turks may simply be curious.

Bavaria was designated guardian of Hitler's estate by victorious World War II allies, and said it remained vigilant about the copyright.

"The book "Mein Kampf" should not be reprinted," Bavarian Finance Minister Kurt Faltlhauser said in a statement. "The state of Bavaria administers the copyright very restrictively to prevent an increase of Nazi ideas."

The Bavarian ministry is asking the embassy in Turkey through the Foreign Ministry to "examine the initiation of legal steps," the ministry said.

Lina Filiba, executive vice president of Turkey's Jewish Community, called the popularity of Hitler's book "disturbing" but said price and curiosity due to prominent media attention were major factors.

She added the sales were part of a "worrying trend" with anti-Semitic publications -- such as the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a 19th-century anti-Semitic tract -- even on sale in bustling department stores.

"I think there's an increase in anti-Semitic, anti-American, and anti-foreigner feeling that have paralleled (the) Dec. 17" decision by the European Union to open membership talks with Turkey, Filiba said.

The country's top seller, "Metal Storm," is a novel about a fictional war between Turkey and the United States. Conspiracy theory books are popular sellers and the press is extremely critical of the United States and Israel.

At least two publishing houses, Emre and Manifesto, have released cheap versions of Hitler's book this year.

Oguz Tektas from Manifesto said it had printed 30,000 copies of the book -- a relatively large number for Turkey -- and had sold at least 25,000 so far.

"It has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Our only aim was commercial," he said.

A company list of best sellers across Turkey listed the Emre edition of the book as the No. 4 four top seller for the D and R bookshop. Officials from the Remzi bookstore confirmed the book was among its top 40 sellers.

But that doesn't mean the shops are comfortable with the book. In one D and R shop in Istanbul, the book couldn't be found with the other best sellers, but was instead on a lower shelf.

"That's where they told us to put it," said saleswoman Nihan Bora. Still, "it's selling a lot."

At the Dost bookshop in Ankara, the book was on a high shelf, far out of reach, where the cover featuring a picture of Hitler, can't be seen. The manager said he was selling about five books a day and added they intentionally were not including it in the best sellers section.

"I saw the book on TV and got curious about Hitler's life and decided to buy it," said Asli Ugur, 20, a university student, who also bought a book about Cuban revolutionary Che Guevera.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/5199.htm