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What do Armenians think of Ataturk?

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  • #31
    ''Kıpcak, Oguz'' Turks was blonde, colour eyes, white skin. Armenian fanatics form to be a ignorant persons.

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    • #32
      Wasn't Ataturk the one who got rid of the Caliphate? If so, I'll give him credit for that.

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      • #33
        You say all these about Ataturk but is PKK's killing thousands of peple logical to yo

        Originally posted by kerkuk_kurdista
        Ataturk is responsible for killing Sheik Said Piran, the great Kurdish revolutionairy leader. Responsible for atrocities against Kurds, against mankind. Like the crush of the Dersim rebellion. He introduced fascist laws in Turkey and calls Kurds, Mountain Turks. No matter what, I'll hate this guy forever.
        But do Armenians also despise him? And what about the Bulgarians (question for you Bulgarian)?
        You say all these about Ataturk but is PKK's killing thousands of peple logical to you. Maybe Ataturk foresaw it. he might have been a facist but not a terrorist

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Yavrum
          Wasn't Ataturk the one who got rid of the Caliphate? If so, I'll give him credit for that.
          Yes. Not only that, he also gave Turkish women the right to vote (even before France and other so to speak developed nations). He was trying to build democracy in a country where Ottoman Sultans have been ruling for centuries. Just for your information, Ottoman Empire was not a democracy. The country was under siege during WWI by Greeks in Izmir, by Italians and Frenchs in Adana, Maras (southern part of Empire), by Russians from East. and the capital Istanbul was under control of Britain and its allias.

          Under these conditions, French provoked Armenians to collaborate with Russian Army in the East. (It is tragic that French parliament passed a law about Armenian deportation recently, they are forgetting their responsibility and role actually.) The Ottoman sultan ordered to deport Eastern Armenians to Syria. And, unfortunately, many Armenians died during the trip. Please, ask yourself this question: Why did Ottoman Empire wait to make "genocide" to Armenians over 500 years? Does this make sense to you? Every country on earth tries to protect its existence if it feels threathened. Yet alone, Ottomans were no democracy! They were ruled by the word of a single Sultan. You cannot blame all Turks who have been living in peace with Armenians over centuries.

          Similarly, Kurdish people have been respected in Turkey over years, do not forget the president of Turkey (Turgut Ozal) was a Kurd. Even this shows that Kurdish people were no different than Turks for Turkey history. Kurdish people fought with Turks side by side during Independence War. Now, they are being provoked by Barzani and used by USA.

          And finally, not all Turkish people approve of Ottoman regime. We are not the continuation of Ottoman Empire. We are a new, young, democratic nation which points towards West (not Iran and East). Republic of Turkey will prevail. Our recent history is not filled with blood like France, UK, Spain, or USA, all countries whose current economic development is based on colonialism. They cannot represent the ideals of freedom and humanity.

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          • #35
            Not only that, but he also said that his predecessor government had slaughtered hundreds of thousands (800,000 to be exact) of its own Armenian and Christian citizens and should be punished for it.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by AsilTürk
              The truth does not depend on what you believe.
              Except for Turks, it seems. (Or the ones that go online, anyway). Their motto is "what we believe does not depend on the truth".
              Plenipotentiary meow!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Anatolian-Heart
                So called AG has never been proved. I really wonder on what evidences some Armenians are blindly insisting on that. This is completely non-sense and even ridiciluos.
                It's preposterous! It's fantasmagorical! It's slander and larcenous even!

                Dude, you're funny!

                If you're wondering on what "evidences" we are making our assertions, perhaps it's better if you ask the International Association of Genocide Scholars (www.isg-iags.org). Maybe they can help you. Although with all due respect, you appear to be beyond all hope.

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                • #38
                  How can a historian working for such an organization make a contradictional statement? Come on! We're not fools.

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                  • #39
                    One thing Ataturk did not invent was sodomy with children...he was just a practicer of the ancient Turkish tradition.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HAN
                      How can a historian working for such an organization make a contradictional statement? Come on! We're not fools.
                      I'm sorry, I must be an idiot, because your logic, or possibly lack thereof, is completely lost on me. Are you trying to say that those who have chosen to study Genocide/Holocaust automatically say that every event having to do with mass killing is a Genocide?

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