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  • #21
    [QUOTE=muratkanat6907]My friend Turks were around since 13th cetury, and I believe this makes Turks natural anatolian, so you can't say that Turks invade lands of Armenian and Kurds.
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    No it makes them natural invaders, because I dont recall reading anyone invited them to Anatolia.They were paid soldiers (mercenaries)mostly, that managed to become a nation by using the occupied peoples on those lands.The invisible finger prints are there!
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #22
      Originally posted by muratkanat6907
      Why deportation or "genocide" (which I don't believe that it was) took place after centuries of living together...? and why not all Armenians living around on Ottoman empire, were not deported?

      Believe if you want or not it happened if nothing else on the accounts of the survivors who all had strangly the same account of events.People went and never came back people witnessed people get butchered every xxxxING CASE!!!!
      Almost all Armenians living in Ottoman Empire was subject to this inhuman satanic policy. And why not all the Armenians? Its funny YOU should ask , If people of Turkey learned one fact a year the answer to this question should be the ultimate one because it is self incrimating.The answer to that is they were allready driving the vehicle called the Ottoman empire on 3 flats and 1 retread they couldnt afford to blow out all the tires.Yes the Armenians in essential positions to the state were spared ,But that should tell you something as far as the racial envy and jealousy that was the root of this evil.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #23
        Originally posted by muratkanat6907
        Personally I believe that some Turks did horrible things, but still I think that some Armenians, Kurds, German, French, English, Russian, Rumanian etc..
        could the same things, in the same situation. Also, I know that we Turks are too sentimental so we cannot realize such systematic "genocide" even if we wanted, too. Which we didnt want to do.
        I don't give a xxxx if everybody in the world has done it! Its no excuse!!!!
        Its childish dont you think to ask why us?That question should be used only by the victims not the defender of the perpetrators.
        Also I know Turks are sentimantel about past killings as well, done un-systematically because its no fun that way isnt it?
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Gavur
          Believe if you want or not it happened if nothing else on the accounts of the survivors who all had strangly the same account of events.People went and never came back people witnessed people get butchered every xxxxING CASE!!!!
          Almost all Armenians living in Ottoman Empire was subject to this inhuman satanic policy. And why not all the Armenians? Its funny YOU should ask , If people of Turkey learned one fact a year the answer to this question should be the ultimate one because it is self incrimating.The answer to that is they were allready driving the vehicle called the Ottoman empire on 3 flats and 1 retread they couldnt afford to blow out all the tires.Yes the Armenians in essential positions to the state were spared ,But that should tell you something as far as the racial envy and jealousy that was the root of this evil.
          Excellent point, Gavur. I heard this from my own family how they were spared because my great grandfather was a baker and they needed bread for the armies. The Turkish people spent their time honing up on their military and fighting skills, so the Armenians were the artisans, business people, and became the leaders which drove them even angrier. But they had to accept their talents because they didn't develop themselves. Also, I was always told how my grandfather was needed for his carpentry skills. Then my grandmother was needed for her sewing skills. This is how they all survived.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Gavur
            Believe if you want or not it happened if nothing else on the accounts of the survivors who all had strangly the same account of events.People went and never came back people witnessed people get butchered every xxxxING CASE!!!!
            Almost all Armenians living in Ottoman Empire was subject to this inhuman satanic policy. And why not all the Armenians? Its funny YOU should ask , If people of Turkey learned one fact a year the answer to this question should be the ultimate one because it is self incrimating.The answer to that is they were allready driving the vehicle called the Ottoman empire on 3 flats and 1 retread they couldnt afford to blow out all the tires.Yes the Armenians in essential positions to the state were spared ,But that should tell you something as far as the racial envy and jealousy that was the root of this evil.

            I agree. Armenians took the brunt of Turkish (and Kurdish opportunity) at having lost portions of its empire.
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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