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[lal]

I didnot claim that i am an expert on Koran. If Islam is assumed to be "dangerous" all divine religions should be accepted as dangerous. And your last sentence: There is no verse in Koran, there is no sayings of prophet Mohammad about that issue.



Cant you see that you follow Kemalism as a religion? And no single word about erection of statues? Did you read all the book? Woow!




Tell me a single difference in mentality and ideology between Enver and Kemal? Who deceived you? So-called "Sun Language Theory"?

in hadis hoories are written. ı cant send a source now. you can find it in google.

they changed christianity to tame it. judaizm is followed by few people like 15 million. kuran cant be changed.it is an evil ideology. tell me just one country, including meleysiya, who can have some little democracy. you dont know islam. islam and democracy cant live together. do you know the real face of fehullah hoca.ı advice you to read it some more. ı cant read it. ı get very nervous and threatened.

ı did not say ı read the book of sevan. ı read his opinions in taraf newspaper. that was enough for me.ı wont read the book. you read kuran.

[ardakilic]

in hadis hoories are written. ı cant send a source now. you can find it in google.

they changed christianity to tame it. judaizm is followed by few people like 15 million. kuran cant be changed.it is an evil ideology. tell me just one country, including meleysiya, who can have some little democracy. you dont know islam. islam and democracy cant live together. do you know the real face of fehullah hoca.ı advice you to read it some more. ı cant read it. ı get very nervous and threatened.

ı did not say ı read the book of sevan. ı read his opinions in taraf newspaper. that was enough for me.ı wont read the book. you read kuran.

Yes as a concept hoory can be found in Koran and Hadiths. But "women in this real world will become hoories of the men"? You change the subject.

What is the relation between Fethullah and this hoory subject?

In the newspaper, he only writes about etymology. I implied his views about Kemalism.

And no single word again about statues and his dictatorship?

The only thing you do is getting angry and saying lots of irrelevant things but not showing a single evidence, even a single clue.

[Sako]

Arda, there are great problems in the Msulim culture, I'm with Lal there but when she thinks everything should be wiped out, I can't agree. Nevertheless, when she says that Islam and democracy can't go together, I have to agree to some degree with her. There are a lot of issues in the Muslim culture but Lal, you don't listen to me, A LOT HAS BEEN CHANGED just like Kemalism was born after Ataturk died. A father is not to blame if after all he has taught his children, they go and become loonatics. Every school of religion has it's fair share of problems but you can't fully blame the religion. Like I said before, there are LOT'S of great Muslims. They have read the same Kuran but have become great and respectful people. Can you explain why other Muslims became horrible men and why many many many others became great men? How did this happen? If you didn't understand something, tell me.

[ardakilic]

Arda, there are great problems in the Msulim culture, I'm with Lal there but when she thinks everything should be wiped out, I can't agree. Nevertheless, when she says that Islam and democracy can't go together, I have to agree to some degree with her. There are a lot of issues in the Muslim culture but Lal, you don't listen to me, A LOT HAS BEEN CHANGED just like Kemalism was born after Ataturk died. A father is not to blame if after all he has taught his children, they go and become loonatics. Every school of religion has it's fair share of problems but you can't fully blame the religion. Like I said before, there are LOT'S of great Muslims. They have read the same Kuran but have become great and respectful people. Can you explain why other Muslims became horrible men and why many many many others became great men? How did this happen? If you didn't understand something, tell me.

Yes, there are huge problems with Islamic culture but similar problems occur in Christian culture or Patagonian culture. Personal hatreds cannot be generalized in absoluteness context.

And Saco Jan, Kemalism was born in Kemal's lifetime but intensified after his death. It is just the continuity of Ittihadism.

Even all Muslims in all over the world are so rude, so aggressive so bla bla, nobody can have a right to destroy Islamic culture (of course, same for other religions or beliefs or faithlessnesses).

[Alexandros]

Religion is not the problem.It`s how you interpret it.However it gets problematic when priests,imams and rabbis politicize their "holy" book and demands that "believers" must follow every word written in the bible,kuran and torah.I`m against all kind of extremes whether it`s religion or ideologi.And lastly, if I had to choose who I wanted to share my room with, I rather shared it with a moderate muslim than a "kemalist" or an islamic fundamentalist;with a moderate jew than a orthodox jew;with a moderate christian than a conservative christian.

Just my 2 cents.

[ardakilic]

Religion is not the problem.It`s how you interpret it.However it gets problematic when priests,imams and rabbis politicize their "holy" book and demands that "believers" must follow every word written in the bible,kuran and torah.I`m against all kind of extremes whether it`s religion or ideologi.And lastly, if I had to choose who I wanted to share my room with, I rather shared it with a moderate muslim than a "kemalist" or an islamic fundamentalist;with a moderate jew than a orthodox jew;with a moderate christian than a conservative christian.

Just my 2 cents.

How nice that somebody would want to share his/her room with me

I am not Kemalist and Islamist. Will you really share?

[Alexandros]

How nice that somebody would want to share his/her room with me

I am not Kemalist and Islamist. Will you really share?

What?A Greek sharing sharing room with a Turk?No,no that is too dangerous.

[ardakilic]

What?A Greek sharing sharing room with a Turk?No,no that is too dangerous.

OK i see

[Alexandros]

OK i see

LOL.Just kidding kardes.

[No Pasaran]

12- Start a student exchange program between Armenia and Turkey

this not need a lot of power to do it. actually we can build a brotherhood organization and use it for make some exchange programs. In first time maybe we cant make year change programs. it needs government support but in the other hand 4-6 week summer exchange programs only need a little money, time and work. I could be the first host family.