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  • may
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    Re: Baby Steps

    Originally posted by hrai View Post
    Hi may, I'm trying real hard with the capitals!!
    Thanks for the effort Hrai, appreciated

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  • hrai
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    Originally posted by may View Post
    Could you please elaborate on this part a bit more? Who defines what "rational" means, let alone "the rational judgment"?



    Correlation can mean a lot. Read some statistics.
    Hi may, I'm trying real hard with the capitals!!

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  • may
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    Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post

    ... also removing rational judgment and saying the Armenian Genocide didn't happen only makes it worse.
    Could you please elaborate on this part a bit more? Who defines what "rational" means, let alone "the rational judgment"?

    Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
    Correlations don't mean much. Read some psychology.
    Correlation can mean a lot. Read some statistics.

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  • hrai
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    Originally posted by eloweeth View Post
    Hello,I am new in this forum and sorry for my bad english.

    I am Turkish and I wanted to say a big sorry to all of you,hope you don't think all of us are prisoners of what is sometimes being dictated on us. I must say for a very long time I was not even interested in this issue and thinking are these armenians crazy that after such a long time they still have grudge and why do they want us to except this,what they will benefit from this....
    But today I have no doubt that it was a genocide which took place.And it is also a fact that turkish people will gradually realize this,there is still time but they will...Please be patient because the other way of forcing them to realize will not make a big change in the public opinion.

    So this is a baby step both for my life and on relations among us.Hope a time will come we all leave those things behind and become brother countries of mutual support
    Welcome eloweeth.

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  • hipeter924
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    Re: Baby Steps

    Originally posted by Palavra View Post
    Realy, what is correlation between genocide recognision and democracy?

    am I wrong or there is only one country in world which accepted a genocide. So German democracy is best in world.

    Funny.
    Free Speech is a main pillar of democracy, remove it and democracy collapses, also removing rational judgment and saying the Armenian Genocide didn't happen only makes it worse.

    Correlations don't mean much. Read some psychology.
    Last edited by hipeter924; 03-11-2009, 09:01 PM.

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  • Palavra
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    Re: Baby Steps

    Realy, what is correlation between genocide recognision and democracy?

    am I wrong or there is only one country in world which accepted a genocide. So German democracy is best in world.

    Funny.

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  • hipeter924
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    Well to put it simply, its pointless denying something that happened. Until people in Turkey are allowed free speech and the genocide is recognized there can't be a true democracy in Turkey.

    If the Turkish nationalists succeed in blocking free speech and denying the genocide, then as I have heard some intellectuals say the only way for Turkey is backward.

    So good to see you that you understand the issue. It is only a matter of time till Turkey at last kicks extremists and nationalists from power, so some sense of sanity and democracy can return.

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  • eloweeth
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    Re: Baby Steps

    Hello,I am new in this forum and sorry for my bad english.

    I am Turkish and I wanted to say a big sorry to all of you,hope you don't think all of us are prisoners of what is sometimes being dictated on us. I must say for a very long time I was not even interested in this issue and thinking are these armenians crazy that after such a long time they still have grudge and why do they want us to except this,what they will benefit from this....
    But today I have no doubt that it was a genocide which took place.And it is also a fact that turkish people will gradually realize this,there is still time but they will...Please be patient because the other way of forcing them to realize will not make a big change in the public opinion.

    So this is a baby step both for my life and on relations among us.Hope a time will come we all leave those things behind and become brother countries of mutual support

    Leave a comment:


  • may
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    Originally posted by Saco View Post
    The name of the Turkish singer wasn't given away, I think we all know why, but I think this is great news.
    I don't know why, can you please tell me Saco?

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  • Sako
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    Another step I'd like to add to my list.

    Ara Gevorgian, a very famous Armenian composer, released a new soundtrack called Adana. Many might've heard the original instrumental Adana and this is the same music except with lyrics. Very famous singers from many, many different countries have sung the song in their own languages ... including Turkey. The name of the Turkish singer wasn't given away, I think we all know why, but I think this is great news. Just like to also mention that my mom will be singing the Indian version of Adana in a month . My parents are pure Armenian but we've lived in India for ten years and we know Ara Gevorgian for about a year now. My moms a singer naturally, sings in Armenian and Indian, has performed on many different stages in different countries, and now our family, along with Mr. Gevorgian (and the Armenian communities all over the world of course), will have the opportunity to present our history to Indians all over the world.

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