Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

America is loosing its face worldwide as a human rights defender.

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that (by urging the committee members; vote against AG acceptance) when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim should be sentenced, instead.

Hillary Clinton is the very politician, in nowadays world, I've seen, for whom justice and truth doesn't worth a penny.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

History is inclined to repeat itself.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Turks killed 1,500,000 Armenians to seize their land, home and property. Now ...

National Security Council in Ankara decided ... to remove Armenia from list of countries that pose threat to Turkey.

they want to hit following two desired goals using the bullet above:

First: posing to the world like a good guy, at no expense to Turkey, as opposed to Armenia.

Secondly: after getting praised for this move by the world/superpowers and later on, by Armenian officials; who in advance had been “slightly urged” by US. Turks would be sure that “friendly" Armenia, doesn’t pose a threat to them, can’t demand retribution of their land, home and property above; because it "violates" Turkey’s “territorial integrity” and it would contradict “good will” act the Armenian side praised, too.

I’m sure, our FM Edvard Nal-bandyan wouldn’t notice/predict and criticize the trap above; to comply with the dictate and praise Turkey.

Turkey can look like a good guy only after accepting AG.
In this case it looks like a cheap guy.

[londontsi]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

It is 100% believable (that the Armenian President lobbied against recognition). I'm sure this position of the Armenian government is related to what I wrote in another thread about the Armenian government hindering and opposing attempts at getting Azerbaijan's destruction of the Julfa graveyard investigated and recognised internationally. In both cases, Armenia just wants to keep the pot bubbling away quietly at a low level - not let it get cold, and not let it ever boil - lest it get out of control. Dictatorships like to have total control and predictability.

Can you rationalize as to why?

What is the ultimate strategy.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

It’s hard to believe, but that high ranking politician can’t tell something like that w/o having evidence to prove his words. Let’s see ...

It is 100% believable (that the Armenian President lobbied against recognition). I'm sure this position of the Armenian government is related to what I wrote in another thread about the Armenian government hindering and opposing attempts at getting Azerbaijan's destruction of the Julfa graveyard investigated and recognised internationally. In both cases, Armenia just wants to keep the pot bubbling away quietly at a low level - not let it get cold, and not risk it ever boiling over - lest it gets out of control. Dictatorships like to have total control and predictability.

[londontsi]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

It may well have been that Joe Biden “meant” Turkey applied pressure on us not to pass this resolution ........etc..

It may have been that Turkey pressured Armenia to ask the US during the negotiations ..... etc..

There were (are) commercial interests in the background in Armenia who may well have applied pressure on SS arguing money is more valuable than honour ...

It may well have been pure naivety of SS’s to treat the recognition issue as a bargaining chip.


In the mean time, the only person who made a comment about this was Joe Biden, and until he substantiates his statement his credibility is on the line.

In the mean time the nation ( and the opposition parties) have to be vigilant because we just do not know what the hell is being done on our behalf.

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[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I believe Joe Biden in this case. He's very outspoken and does not pull any punches.

But why he is telling this now.

It may be politically motivated because of coming elections in USA. Democrats want to regain Armenians confidence by blaming Serj Sargsyan. I think this time we shouldn't play the games planed by others, it's not favorable for us in any case.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I believe Joe Biden in this case. He's very outspoken and does not pull any punches.

It’s hard to believe, but that high ranking politician can’t tell something like that w/o having evidence to prove his words. Let’s see ...

[Joseph]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/polit...RMENIAN.Net%29


What do you think about this? Does US plan initiating political instability in Armenia?

I believe Joe Biden in this case. He's very outspoken and does not pull any punches.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/politics/news/55861/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+panarmenian/AMUf+%28Top+News+-+PanARMENIAN.Net%29

Why Joe Biden decided to slander Armenian President?
October 27, 2010
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commenting on the dialogue between an Armenian community representative with the U.S. Vice President, who stated that “Armenia’s President called him, asking the Obama Administration to refrain from recognizing the Armenian Genocide on the eve of the roadmap agreement and President Obama’s April 24 statement.”

“It was the Armenian President that called me and said ‘Look, do not force this issue now, while we are in negotiations’,” Biden said in the video.

What do you think about this? Does US plan initiating political instability in Armenia?

[retro]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Looks like the Kurds aren't fans of Kemalist TV.

Danish court rules in favour of Kurdish satellite broadcaster

Copenhagen - A Danish court on Tuesday ruled that police had acted wrongfully in seizing money belonging to a Copenhagen-based Kurdish satellite broadcaster as part of a probe into its alleged links to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

In August, police had ordered the freezing of bank accounts holding a total of 327,000 kroner (60,000 dollars) and being used by the Roj-TV station.

The seizure of the funds was part of an ongoing investigation into allegations that that Roj-TV is supporting terrorism by airing pro- PKK interviews and programmes.

Hundreds of Kurds gathered near the Copenhagen court to celebrate. Some held placards, and chanted slogans such as 'Kurds also have right to freedom of speech.' Prosecutors meanwhile filed an appeal.

Authorities in Turkey have been urging Denmark to shut down Roj- TV, which it says is a mouthpiece for the PKK. The PKK has been waging an armed separatist struggle against the government since the mid 1980s.

The United States and the European Union regards the PKK as a terrorist group.

In 2005, the Turkish embassy in Denmark filed a complaint with police, saying Roj-TV violated Danish terrorism laws.

Later that year, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stayed way from a joint news conference with then Danish premier Anders Fogh Rasmussen in protest against the presence of a Roj-TV reporter.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...te-broadcaster