Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Kurds in Turkey don't see themselves as part of Turkey just like Kurds in Iraq don't see themselves as Iraqis. It's a matter of time until they form a successful revolt in the region. I do agree that it is always an outside force that uses the Kurds for pawns but I think a time will come when they could band together and develop a movement on their own.

Soon, when US troops are out of Iraq: Kurdish factor will be augmented in the Region. Now they are Federative Iraq’s Kurdish Republic. But as the Iraqi current developments indicate vividly: the Sunni, Sheit and Kurds conduct de facto war against each other and only the US presence prevents them breaking down Iraq into three independent states. Thus Iraq’s break down is inevitable. And then the Kurdish State created in Iraq (or at least the Kurdish Republic of the Federative Iraq) will accelerate the Kurdish rebellion movement in Turkey: resulting in splitting down it into several parts: the smallest part will belong to Seljuks.

Recently EU made a statement that Turkey in terms of Minority human rights should take vigorous action to improve their record in it, if they want to join EU.

But when the Minority human rights are not violated in Turkey, non Turk/Seljuk population demographics will be changed dramatically; to reflect reality. Many converted/canceled Kurds, Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians will return to their roots and the total sum of the so called minorities will outnumber the Seljuk.
And then the Seljuks will become minority there, as it is in fact.

Link:

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1504282.php/Council-of-Europe-very-concerned-over-Turkey-minority-rights

Council of Europe "very concerned" over Turkey minority rights Strasbourg, France
- Turkey must do more to protect the rights of minority ethnic groups such as Kurds, the Council of Europe's commissioner for human rights said in a report Thursday, saying that he was 'very concerned' by some current restrictions.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Inter-dependency between countries is going to be one of the key phenomenons in 21th century which will contribute to the relatively peaceful environment in the world. EU project at the beginning of mid-20th century might be a good example of this situation in context of providing the stable and peaceful environment in Europe.

I am a person who sincerely believe that Kurds were terrible oppressed in Turkey. However, the gas pipelines is completely another issue. Kurdish national movement in Turkey was not, is not and will not be a movement which totally develops from its own dynamics. It has always got support from foreign intelligence services, foreign countries and whatsoever. I do not need the necessity to mention these countries now. These pipelines will not be only some possesion of Turkey. De facto, they will always be in the possesion of some sort of an international consortium. As long as Europeans and Americans have some benefit to get from/by Turkey (ofcourse we'll have our own as well), seperatist Kurds can do no harm to Turkey.

Kurds in Turkey don't see themselves as part of Turkey just like Kurds in Iraq don't see themselves as Iraqis. It's a matter of time until they form a successful revolt in the region. I do agree that it is always an outside force that uses the Kurds for pawns but I think a time will come when they could band together and develop a movement on their own.

[firat]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Kurds celebrate their first/major victory in their straggle for the autonomy/independence against Turks: the fact that they managed to get their own TV channel encourages and consolidates the whole nation.
Therefore further steps of the foundation of the Kurdish state in Turkey wouldn’t take much time and will be carried out rapidly. The predictions, currently made by politicians that Turkey is becoming the world’s primary battleground and source of instability, soon will become a reality.

In this situation blowing up the Turkish gas pipelines is going to become the major tool for the Kurdish rebellion to tell the developed counties, that they are not going to surrender their right for establishing Kurdish state in Turkey.

I think the pipelines builder’s investment feasibility studies are incorrect.

Inter-dependency between countries is going to be one of the key phenomenons in 21th century which will contribute to the relatively peaceful environment in the world. EU project at the beginning of mid-20th century might be a good example of this situation in context of providing the stable and peaceful environment in Europe.

I am a person who sincerely believe that Kurds were terrible oppressed in Turkey. However, the gas pipelines is completely another issue. Kurdish national movement in Turkey was not, is not and will not be a movement which totally develops from its own dynamics. It has always got support from foreign intelligence services, foreign countries and whatsoever. I do not need the necessity to mention these countries now. These pipelines will not be only some possesion of Turkey. De facto, they will always be in the possesion of some sort of an international consortium. As long as Europeans and Americans have some benefit to get from/by Turkey (ofcourse we'll have our own as well), seperatist Kurds can do no harm to Turkey.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I think the pipelines builder’s investment feasibility studies are incorrect.

Either that or the world might have a "Kurdish Question" upon their hands soon. After all, they replaced us Armenians with Kurds... nearly 100 years later, I think somebody is realizing it was a mistake.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Kurds celebrate their first/major victory in their straggle for the autonomy/independence against Turks: the fact that they managed to get their own TV channel encourages and consolidates the whole nation.
Therefore further steps of the foundation of the Kurdish state in Turkey wouldn’t take much time and will be carried out rapidly. The predictions, currently made by politicians that Turkey is becoming the world’s primary battleground and source of instability, soon will become a reality.

In this situation blowing up the Turkish gas pipelines is going to become the major tool for the Kurdish rebellion to tell the developed counties, that they are not going to surrender their right for establishing Kurdish state in Turkey.

I think the pipelines builder’s investment feasibility studies are incorrect.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Oh, come on Gegev, don't underestimate yourself, and overestimate an uncivilized primitive barbarian. I truly adore your writing.

Come on May, you are not primitive.

[may]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I guess your brilliant scientific-Pan-Turkish vision that ignores mine, is based on some ‘solid’ and verifiable Turkish “evidences”-lies. And probably Christian Club will fall in love with Turkey after reading your posts. And then Turkey will “prosper” with its agriculture/culture due to your No-stradamus predictions.

May:
I’m not that cleaver to argue with you, as you claim in the context of your post. Don’t waste your wisdom on answering my post, you will need in it during your luxury predictions of the Turkish-brilliant-future research.

I can't argue with that-wise.
I agree with you!

Oh, come on Gegev, don't underestimate yourself, and overestimate an uncivilized primitive barbarian. I truly adore your writing.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Wow! That is not ball glazing, that is a sci-fi genuity... Ever thought of going into writing? You have a future with this excellent command on world history and civilization, brilliant futuristic scenarios, and needless to say, an amazing imagination ability and analysis skills...

I guess your brilliant scientific-Pan-Turkish vision that ignores mine, is based on some ‘solid’ and verifiable Turkish “evidences”-lies. And probably Christian Club will fall in love with Turkey after reading your posts. And then Turkey will “prosper” with its agriculture/culture due to your No-stradamus predictions.

May:
I’m not that cleaver to argue with you, as you claim in the context of your post. Don’t waste your wisdom on answering my post, you will need in it during your luxury predictions of the Turkish-brilliant-future research.

I can't argue with that-wise.
I agree with you!

[Jos]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Wow! That is not ball glazing, that is a sci-fi genuity... Ever thought of going into writing? You have a future with this excellent command on world history and civilization, brilliant futuristic scenarios, and needless to say, an amazing imagination ability and analysis skills...

Don't encourage him May, I think he already fancies himself as a pretend Nostradamus.

[may]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Don’t worry Armenians are not going to attack Turkey; we leave the job to the superpowers, Armenia just will assist them.

Iraq (Sadam Hussein) also planned to survive “at least of couple of more hundred years”; alas the rest of world doesn’t think so. As opposed to the past, nowadays too many primitive barbarians doesn’t play any role in 21 century battle field. After the oil reserves are depleted world wouldn’t need any more Turkic “State”(trade barrier) in that region. To avoid the problems it creates for the rest of civilized world. As refers to the millions of Turkish population there (more than half of them will reject their Turkishness) and for the ethnic Seljuks the civilized nations will find appropriate employment opportunities that match their low educational background. They wouldn't slaughter Seljuks.

Wow! That is not ball glazing, that is a sci-fi genuity... Ever thought of going into writing? You have a future with this excellent command on world history and civilization, brilliant futuristic scenarios, and needless to say, an amazing imagination ability and analysis skills...