Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

This is the right time for USA to accept the AG bill and obtain the most powerful tool to threat Turkey with; initiating AG compensation international legal process. It will convert Turkey into the most polite puppet of America, which would be very useful thing for USA right now: before taking their troops out of Iraq. Because:

What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

After accepting the AG bill by US Congress, the same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the US requires, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

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What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

When AG bill will be accepted by US Congress, the same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the US requires, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

[hipeter924]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

De facto truth is that regardless of Obama’s desire USA can’t stop severe fighting among Sunni, Sheit and Kurds. Under Saddam dictatorship it didn’t happen much, but now after occupying the country America can’t, is unable, to stop the violence in Iraq, instead it gradually increases and now that’s out of US army control. How can you hope that after US troops are out of Iraq and when there is no another mighty dictator like Saddam: the violence and alienation among the Sunni, Sheit and Kurds for the oil reserves etc. will stop.

Do you believe that the task that US couldn’t carry out, Turkey can? And Turks will be able to consolidate Iraq, although they are in a state of war with Iraqi Kurds (remember air strikes) and are facing increased Kurdish opposition inside.
Note please that there are things that even America can’t do: look closely at Iraq and Afghanistan invasion devastating results, China’s growing economic/military might and America’s economic decline.
Please support your statements with some solid argumentation.

I think we are going to see a future of China, India, USA, Russia and Japan as the top players but a MUCH more even distribution of power; obviously US debt and slowing down of its economy will have a negative impact, but in the long term the US economy will even out. India is likely going to be a 1st world nation by the end of this century, and I would bet on India over China simply because its economic policy covers the whole nation (China just focuses on the cities), its economy is more efficient (and better planned) and of course as opposed to China it is a well functioning democracy. When US power wanes in the middle east, all the other powers will move in; no one will ever abandon the middle east.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I think we are going to see a future of China, India, USA, Russia and Japan as the top players but a MUCH more even distribution of power; obviously US debt and slowing down of its economy will have a negative impact, but in the long term the US economy will even out. India is likely going to be a 1st world nation by the end of this century, and I would bet on India over China simply because its economic policy covers the whole nation (China just focuses on the cities), its economy is more efficient (and better planned) and of course as opposed to China it is a well functioning democracy. When US power wanes in the middle east, all the other powers will move in; no one will ever abandon the middle east.

I agree that your scenario soon will become reality with one reservation: the superpowers must be very mighty in terms of nuclear arms, India has just a few nukes. I guess it is impossible to become superpower without having strong nuclear arsenal. And in Japan's case it's absolutely impossible. Do you agree?

[Armanen]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Don't expect the west, and its globalist leaders to exit without kicking and screaming.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Don't expect the west, and its globalist leaders to exit without kicking and screaming.

America is loosing its face worldwide as a superpower, human rights defender and the land of prosperity.

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim will be sentenced, instead. Truth doesn't matter much.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

In addition, note please that America doesn't loose the 30 silvers, by accepting AG because:

After accepting the AG bill US would obtain the most powerful tool to threat Turkey with; initiating AG compensation international legal process. It will convert Turkey into the most polite puppet of America, which would be very useful thing for USA right now: before taking their troops out of Iraq.

What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

After accepting the AG bill by US Congress, the same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the US requires, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

[hipeter924]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

I agree that your scenario soon will become reality with one reservation: the superpowers must be very mighty in terms of nuclear arms, India has just a few nukes. I guess it is impossible to become superpower without having strong nuclear arsenal. And in Japan's case it's absolutely impossible. Do you agree?

Well Japan will never be a military power, unless there is a dramatic change in public opinion. Right now Japan has a strong pacifist movement but if North Korea/China becomes threatening enough to Taiwan and South Korea then Japan may develop nuclear weapons; because it has the capacity to create nukes from its nuclear power stations and technology. India has no reason to develop more nukes as that would only start another nuclear arms race with Pakistan, it is likely to concentrate on conventional forces such as its navy, airforce and army.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Kurds in Turkey declared null and void their cease-fire agreement with Turkey, recently. Thus Turks are forced to abolish their “mission” of establishing peace and prosperity in Caucasus region, because they are in the state of war with 20million Kurdish population inside the Disputable Territory called Turkey. And now they need to establish peace inside the Territory.

I’m sure that this is the beginning of splitting the Territory into several independent counties/nations that would live in their historical lands forever.

By the way; Armenia and Kurdistan collaboration would be very useful at the Armenia-Kurdistan-Greece-Turkey map redrawing negotiation process for the territories: at least during the first stage.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

America is loosing its face worldwide as a human rights defender.

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that (by urging the committee members; vote against AG acceptance) when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim should be sentenced, instead.

Hillary Clinton is the very politician, in nowadays world, I've seen, for whom justice and truth doesn't worth a penny.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

[gegev]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

What is Hillary Clinton's Armenian visit goal ?

America is loosing its face worldwide as a human rights defender.

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that (by urging the committee members; vote against AG acceptance) when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim should be sentenced, instead.

Hillary Clinton is the very politician, in nowadays world, I've seen, for whom justice and truth doesn't worth a penny.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

Given her background above .....

THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary
July 10, 2009

Joint Statement on the Nagorno-Karabakh Conflict
by U.S. President Obama, Russian President Medvedev, and French President Sarkozy
....

The Basic Principles call for inter alia:
--return of the territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijani control --an interim status(P.S.: Genocide) for Nagorno-Karabakh providing guarantees for security and self-governance, --a corridor linking Armenia to Nagorno-Karabakh; --future determination of the final legal status(P.S.: Graveyard) of Nagorno-Karabakh through a legally binding expression of will; --the right of all internally displaced persons and refugees to return to their former places of residence; and

URL is:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Joint-Statement-on-the-Nagorno-Karabakh-Conflict/

In past Turks; called in modern terms “Azeri” could managed to “free" Nakhidjevan from, at least, of 40% Armenian population (according to USSR statistics) and now there are no Armenians there. Now Russia, USA and others can rightfully report: white genocide in Nakhidjevan is carried out “”unfortunately””, Nakhidjevan is "FREE" from Armenian "occupation".

In 1988 Azeri-Turks carried out Sumgait genocide: USSR didn’t notice it. Aeries encouraged with the fact wanted to do the same with Karabakh 140,000 population. The victims this time strongly rejected the Turkish desire and didn’t die amazingly. They even managed to counterattack the Turks and a little bit enlarged the Karabakh territory to ensure that the next genocide attempt by Turks wouldn’t be carried out that easily.

And now Russia, together with USA, in their joint statement above strongly recommend Armenia, - “return of the territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijani control”. Which means putting Nagorno-Karabakh in a sack and letting Turkish army HUG it; to facilitate upcoming Nagorno-Karabakh genocide attempt.

Russians and Americans know the Turks and therefore they can’t doubt that,- “future determination of the final legal status (P.S.: Graveyard) of Nagorno-Karabakh” – written in their current joint statement, after returning back “surrounding native Armenian territories”, the FUTURE for Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians would never come. And eventually the superpowers will be engaged in profitable gas/oil business with the Turks; without being disturbed by “nasty” Armenians.

She is going urge Armenia to take part in Arthakh suicide plan; described above.

[UrMistake]

Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Guys is any one in the MilitaryPhotos.net forum...well i go a problem with them...you see there is many turkish members in that forum and most of them are all blind followers of our well know turkish propaganda...well turks are turks this is not bothering me the thing is that the admins and i dont know if there is any turkish one there are keep closing threads that shows news or or any evidence that makes turks of what they are real..any info that goes bad for turkye is keep closing..one exampel is this one http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...sentence...can we complain about the admin behavior there ...any support!