Well yes, I would expect you to start having normal relations irrespective of what any predecessors may have done. In terms of here and now, what's that got to do with me? Your predecessors should have dealt with it 90, 80, 70, 60, 50 years ago when the guilty were around. It's not my fault your sense of justice remains unfulfilled 94 years later.
First off, the reason we all take this issue forward so seriously is not only because the AG was a crime against humanity and our people but also because our and your predecessors dealt with this issue till their last breath. We are continuing what they left off and have no doubts, if they had the chance to live one minute more, they would fight against this injustice and you Turks would still deny the AG. Am I wrong?!?!?
The Modern Genocide continues till today and nothing is normal neither for you or us. YES, a Genocide goes on till today and that is where the Turkish people and the Turkish gov. can find their individual share’s of blame. That includes you and I’ll explain why.
One reason Armenians and Turks will never have normal relations without dealing with this issue FIRST is because you and your people have been denying your past EQUALLY as much, IF NOT MORE, as your predecessors have. Your grandfathers and grandmothers hid the past … YOU’RE PAST … and taught many of you, if not ALL OF YOU, how to laugh at us and hate us as much as they did (IF NOT MORE), directly and/or indirectly. After all, their blood runs within your veins. Anyways, as the years went by, denial and the lowest forms of lies were injected into the hearts of the new Turkish generation which spoiled not only them but the Armenian people as well, who began to hate Turks more then ever and only an imbecile wouldn’t/won’t understand why. Instead of stopping the developing hate and lies though by accepting the AG, the Turks began the Modern Genocide, as if one f*****g Genocide wasn’t enough … as if they didn’t have enough to pay for already, lol. No matter, they began to and tried their level best to destroy anything that even slightly reminded you of Armenia or Armenians, trying to cover their crap, which brings us to the 90’s. Till now, all that I described, all the covering up, wasn’t being done by your grandfathers/predecessors, it was already being done partially and/or completely by your parents. Forget the older generation, their already dead as you like to put it. So, like I said, this brings us to the 90’s. Your Azeri cousins take up weapons at the middle of a beautiful moonlit night and attack Armenia, attempting to start finishing what their grandfathers started in 1915. A war began and raged for a few years and Armenia became very weak after that but showed the world once again that it will never die no matter how many Turks and Azeri’s wish for that to happen. THIS took all the hate and lies to a much higher level and this brings us to Hrant Dink and the new generation which started to use its brains. Unfortunately, the Turkish mentality was so spoilt at this point that a young Turk took a gun and murdered Hrant. A small revolution took place after that and the Turkish people began to think without the help of the adorable Turkish gov. which was a big step forward. This finally brings us to the present day, Ferdi!
My point is that throughout the past 94 YEARS, you and your people have denied EVERYTHING that you have done … destroyed almost everything that belonged to us gradually … began to live in OUR lands and if that wasn’t enough, change their historical names … bribed and THREATENED many different countries that wanted to support us … threatened and even killed individuals in Turkey that thought differently … laughed at us for centuries … killed our fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters in the Kharabagh war (not to mention all the Armenians you killed throughout and before the AG) … taught lies in your schools for almost a century and continue to do so TODAY … murdered Hrant Dink … threatened all the intellectuals and Turks very seriously that signed the apology petition … destroyed our past and spoiled our lives … enjoyed and still enjoy the money that officially belonged to the Armenian people (a VERY, VERY large part of the Turkish bank in 1915 (so naturally today, as well) … began to live in our houses and comfort which you stole from us forcefully … drove so many of our people literally mad/crazy as the years went by … and this is not all ……….
I hope you understand what I’m saying. All this happened 94 years ago and continues till today. Do you now understand what’s going on? This is more blame then the Turkish and Azeri people can carry TOGETHER and unfortunately, THERE IS MUCH, MUCH MORE. I’d like to discontinue my list for today though.
I’m not saying YOU personally have to take all the blame but you have your share of blame. Denial is one reason alone. Your family directly was connected to hiding your and our past and teaching you lies. I’m not saying your grandfather killed our people (I’m not going that far) … perhaps he was a soldier serving in WW1, who knows, but millions of families in Turkey are not innocent and carry a lot of blame and blood everyday, no matter where they go. Nevertheless, your family taught you lies … everyone taught you lies.
It doesn’t matter if you did something directly or indirectly. Your grandfathers have taught you how to carry their burden and how to cover it up. You are all completely prepared and I can prove that to you. In the end though, here’s the thing. We don’t personally blame YOU. We don’t want you to burn in hell. We just want justice, we want everything to fall into place. No one wants war. We blame the country of Turkey, not all Turks alike. I have so many Turkish friends that I would gladly take a bullet for RIGHT NOW and feel like xxxx every day when I think of all the crap they have to go through because of the bastards that control your country. They accept what happened, fight for a better future, and will always be our friends. They are the reason why we haven’t completely given up on you Turks. The Turkish gov. on the other hand is the one that will pay the GREATEST PRICE, not my friends, not the good hearted citizens of Turkey, not the Turks that regret what happened, not the Turks that understand us ………… and they will, have no doubts.
The AG isn’t even a century old. It’s as if it happened yesterday. If it happened 500 years ago, then you could EASILY say that you had no connection with it or something like that. But it didn’t. I would still just like to remind you though that even if a thousand years passed, if you continued to deny your past, you would continue to carry the blame your pathetic ancestors did and still do today in hell. Right now though, the Turkish people have a lot to answer for. The AG took place 94 years ago not 500 or a 1000 years ago. No one, my friend, will let you forget. No one. And even if we do, YOU will always feel awkward. You will never forget and will somehow stumble upon the truth one day. Armenians and Turks have been together for 800 years. That’s no joke. We have a long history together and this issue binds us together tighter then ever. That is why you will have to apologize just like WE would have to if we murdered your people!
The Turkish gov. and MANY MANY MANY MANY Turks have caused us pain you will never be able to even imagine in your wildest nightmares and they will pay more then they would have to pay back then. They have spoiled an entire generation.
Throughout all these years, your parents (I’m talking about the massive, massive majority, I don’t know your parents) have continued to cause us pain, they have continued to kill us indirectly and even directly, believe it or not, and by doing so, they have thrown their burden upon your shoulders. So see, your grandfathers took our people, our lands, and our money, your parents began to and continue to cover up all the proof, destroying us in many different ways, and now you continue their legacy. Their blood runs within your veins. That’s why the Turks have dirty blood figuratively speaking. You are the third generation though … You have a chance to stop all this and if you don’t, YOUR AND OUR CHILDREN WILL CONTINUE THE BATTLE. Is that what you want?
Genocide is not a joke or a simple war my Turkish friend. You don’t fully imagine what it is and when you do your way of thinking will change. It is THE worst form of evil and the only thing MORE EVIL is DENYING IT which the children of the murderers have been pushing forward for a century … very professionally I might add. Congratulations, you’ve all been doing a fantastic job. So now you ask me “What does this/that have to do with me?” and I say … it has EVERYTHING to do with you…
I know in law there's a popular concept that there remains no statute of limitations on murder, but I reject that.
There is, once the culprit has departed this world then as my Italian friends say it's 'la musica e finita'. Denying something may be immoral, bad taste but that doesn't make the post generation complicit in the original sin.
And forgive me Ferdi but only a coward would say “What’s this got to do with me?”Only a coward. Isn’t it ironic that your grandfathers said the same sentences when people were talking to them? Do you now see where your way of speaking even comes from? It is time for change not cowardly phrases.
I know this will come across as very inflammatory to many of you but keep things in perspective about who really did what, who is to blame, needs to regret, apologize etc. What irks me is that Armenians have a habit of talking like they've been personally "... burned, severed, drowned, sliced up" when in reality they’ve probably never suffered anything other than a paper cut.
I don't know the answer, perhaps Turks need to be more historically focused and Armenians more future focused to move ahead. Who knows? I don't.
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