Re: The sense of loss?
I think if we start banning Genocide deniers we'd lose nothing,because their only purpose here (other then trying to make us feel good)is conducting propaganda for other Turk's.
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Re: The sense of loss?
Originally posted by ferdi2So at face value you have provided:
W O Henderson- Pages 215-218 = 3 pages
Manus I Midlarsky- Pages 77-79 = 2 pages
and a Wiki Reference.
Basically a few of pages in obscure publications and you allow yourself to draw the longest bow possible i.e. that Oil was a major factor in the AG. Even without reading a page it seems far fetched and unconvincing. I would have expected encyclopedia's to be written about if it had any substance.
This is classic Armenian diaspora deception in action. You draw flimsy parrallels (ie. Nazi Germany for sympathy), exaggerate facts (i.e. influence of Oil and rail) , inflate figures (deaths 1.5+ or even 2m+ for 'marketing' impact in foreign parliaments), distort the reality (i.e. Armenians were the center of the universe standing in the way of the axis of evil for world domination) and expect everyone else to swallow this hook, line and sinker.
And while we're on the topic of "flimsy" evidence, where is YOUR evidence in all this? You have yet to produce ANYthing to contribute to your opinions, or perception. So far, all you have done is disagreed with everyone here based on nothing more than you FEELING that you "just don't think it's right". Well....as convincing as that may sound to you in your own little world (which seems to contradict the way the rest of the world works on every subject), in academia, or the scholarly world, that means about as much as saying you're god. Over, and over, and over again, you have babbled about how nothing we have told you, or shown you, could possibly be true, no matter how much academic evidence we provide (try reading German archives and historians, for starters, and see where those "exaggerated" stories and numbers come from), yet your posts clearly indicate you haven't read anything on your own about this subject outside of maybe a tiny Turkish pamphlet, or pro-Turkish web article. You're on a website for Armenians, and in a specific section devoted to the genocide, which used to be an independent website of its own. With your complete ignorance on the subject, you are hardly in a position to disagree with anyone here. Post something of some substance, or get out of this thread already. You're in way over your head, and your replies aren't helping you climb back out.Last edited by Crimson Glow; 05-10-2009, 08:38 PM.
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Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostPlease, Crimson Glow, I've said before that I don't doubt your good intentions with your history postings, and you don't seem to be like the neanderthal majority that roam this forum - but if you are going to attack people who point out obvious errors than maybe it is better for you to post nothing on these subjects. You don't yet seem to know enough about the subjects to write accurately about them.
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostA lot of what you are posting could have come straight out of a Turkish propaganda book!
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostHave you read any books about the Sarikamish offensive and the period immediately before it? Russian forces in the Caucasus were in a state of complete panic and disorganisation. Turkey had already captured Ardahan and Artvin only a few months earlier, routing the Russian army. "Bergmann" is not a place, it was the name of the defeated Russian commander. In expectation of further defeats Russia then withdrew all its troops from northern Iran, leaving the way open for the Turkish army to occupy it and massacre most of the Christians living there (an event which foreshadowed the Armenian Geniocide). The Russian army was preparing to abandon Kars as the Sarikamish battle was reached its climax (start of January 1915) and they expected total defeat. If it were not for the citizens of Sarikamish, and the soldiers based there, who decided to try and defend the town, preventing the Turks from getting shelter there from the severe weather, Turkey would have won.
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostAnd you oil nonsense is lifted straight from 1920s Bolshevik propaganda (invented to justify their occupation of the Caucasus republics). Turkey, never one to miss a trick, has just adapted that old lie for their own use.
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Originally posted by hrai View PostHilarious.
I've been on this carousel before where over a few posts you slightly change the subject of the original post. Your numbered assumptions from my post are incredible. Reading between the lines to that degree must turn a daily newspaper into an epic.
Duff means excellent
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Originally posted by Mukuch View PostTry this. Although I do not promise you Harison Ford....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl8sM...x=0&playnext=1
Also :
"Herero Heroes" by Jan-Bart Gewald
ISBN : 085 255 7493
Page 218
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Originally posted by Gavur View PostBell the self appointed Turkish historian is probably been neutered.Since only her arsss is getting an erection.
Bells the official forum historian who uses wikipedia as his main source and book reviews from Ebay!!!!!!
Bell should learn to use a litter tray instead of spreading that stuff over these pages.Last edited by hrai; 05-08-2009, 08:54 PM.
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Everytime I walk down my street to go to school I see this white cat walking around.
Bell? Are you stalking me?
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Fine I don't know anything about anything.
But your the moron, a hypocrite that asks everyone for source.You couldn't even do what 1.5 M was able to, that is to back up your claims and don't be condescending.
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Originally posted by Gavur View PostBell the self appointed Turkish historian is probably been neutered.Since only her arsss is getting an erection.
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Re: The sense of loss?
Bell the self appointed Turkish historian is probably been neutered.Since only her arsss is getting an erection.
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