The sense of loss?

[meline]

Re: The sense of loss?

What "massive loss in late 1914" - things were going well for Turkey on their Eastern front, and the Russians were in a state of panic.

What "revolts"?




That is just 100% bull. Honestly. Where on earth did you get that from?

Bell, if you cannot support your point of view with reliable history sources then just shut the xxxx up. Yours is the empty talk of the "Earth is flat" style. Nothing personal. But come on, challenge your own intelligence and provide us with sth more than just your allegations. Telling it to you like one cat to another.....

And yes guys, I am back....for better or for worse

[Anoush]

Re: The sense of loss?

Coup? remember. Isnt makarios accused greece?

Anyway, You are forgetting agreements signed by greece, turkey, uk and cyprus. You cannot do everything as you like. You cannot destroy an agreement with voting.. I am not talking about pressure against Turkish minority.

Turkey had every right for intervining. Occupying and dividing island is different issue. Greece tried to take all island and lost half of it.




It is not forced and It is not against any agreement. No need to change facts.

Unfortunately the turks with American armaments were killing and massacring a great deal of Greek civilians in the 1960's to take over Cyprus that belonged only to the Greeks for thousands of years. I don't know why GeekForumer, but the turks ever since they charged into both our lands from the 12th through the 15th centuries have been very lucky throughout their miserable existence. The west plays field games with them with their political games and agendas always making them the winners despite their very belligerent past and till today with their Genocide denialist regime; which means they are still continuing the Genocide as it is the last stage of Genocide.

[Palavra]

Re: The sense of loss?

No. It was 80% of the people of Cyprus who wanted union with Greece. It was their self-determination right. The Greeks outnumbered the Turks 4 to 1 on every part of Cyprus.

Coup? remember. Isnt makarios accused greece?

Anyway, You are forgetting agreements signed by greece, turkey, uk and cyprus. You cannot do everything as you like. You cannot destroy an agreement with voting.. I am not talking about pressure against Turkish minority.

Turkey had every right for intervining. Occupying and dividing island is different issue. Greece tried to take all island and lost half of it.

The Turks of the Republic of Hatay were only 40% and yet forced Enosis with Turkey in 1939 with threats and voting fraud.

It is not forced and It is not against any agreement. No need to change facts.

[GreekForumer]

Re: The sense of loss?

My friend, It was greece who is trying to take whole island.

No. It was 80% of the people of Cyprus who wanted union with Greece. It was their self-determination right. The Greeks outnumbered the Turks 4 to 1 on every part of Cyprus.

The Turks of the Republic of Hatay were only 40% and yet forced Enosis with Turkey in 1939 with threats and voting fraud.

do you know meaning of enosis?

It means Union. What do you think it means ?

[hrai]

Re: The sense of loss?

My friend, It was greece who is trying to take whole island. do you know meaning of enosis?

yes thanks.

[hrai]

Re: The sense of loss?

Oops, my fault. Typo. I was thinking of the date the GERMANS declared war on the Russians, not the Ottomans. Regardless, the rest of the info still stands.

true

[Palavra]

Re: The sense of loss?

So turkey should have taken the whole island and that would have been okay?

My friend, It was greece who is trying to take whole island. do you know meaning of enosis?

[Crimson Glow]

Re: The sense of loss?

ottoman empire entered World War One without any declaration, just by a naval bombardment of Russian Black Sea coast on October 29th 1914,
Russia formally declared war against ottomans on November 2nd 1914.

Oops, my fault. Typo. I was thinking of the date the GERMANS declared war on the Russians, not the Ottomans. Regardless, the rest of the info still stands.

[hipeter924]

Re: The sense of loss?

[QUOTE=ferdi2;266279][QUOTE=Crimson Glow;266259]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl8sMDZkyXc (Part I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJI0HQLHlX4 (Part II)

Watch and learn basic history. QUOTE]

Thanks, now I've just learnt what Armenian propaganda looks like.

If you think a documentary on the Armenian Genocide is propaganda you are an idiot...truthful events being documented are not propaganda. However denying the Armenian Genocide is propaganda because it depicts untruthful events as a result the Turkish governments institutional racism and its disregard of human rights.

[hrai]

Re: The sense of loss?

Unrelated. I also did not like what Turkey did at cyprus. (I am not against invasion but dividing land two different part is wrong.)

So turkey should have taken the whole island and that would have been okay?