New program against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

[Alevigirl88]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Eti, your logic results in a cycle that produces nothing but pain for the nations. You can never know who was the first to do an action and who re-acted it. It is just like a kid fight with no actual one to blame, but unfortunately not as naive as fighting over a toy because the pain it brings is irreversible.

I am not a native speaker but at least for me, the word "reason" is more like a word that points out a natural cause that will inevitably result in the same events. If something is wrongly executed, the reason hardly matters. The things happened in past can show us why other events happened, but it should not be mentioned as "justifications" of wrongly done actions. The way to approach it, is to analyze whether another action was possible to solve problem at hand differently. Be sure, similar problems would occur again, then if you know how "not to solve" it, you are one step closer to a better way.

And while speaking about events that are associated with death tolls, one should be more selective about the words, and expressions. "Small price" is such an example.

I agree completely

[Mukuch]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Brainwashed? Look who is talking!

I am talking. Any questions?

[Mukuch]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Oh yeah, just like there is a "reason" why Turks were anti-Armenian/Greek, there is also a "reason" they are anti-Turkish right?

What is the reason they are anti -Armenian? Do we live on turkish land? Did we commite a Genocide against turks? Did we kill , rape , torture millions of turks?

xxxx YOU!

[Gavur]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

OK , lets do it!

If Eti never heard of it that must be not true! Right?
Eti did you ever heard that first socialist party active in territory of turkey/Ottoman Empire was an Armenian party? But that is true, like a lot of other things you never heard of.

That's why the socialists Turks (the real ones not the fascist) value and treasure us Armenians, because of that reason.Eti is unfortunately is one of those majority of Turks that doesn't know hes a Fasho.

[may]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Have ever passed your mind why they are so antiturkish?

This what I call real funn!! Brainwashid turks !!!! Love them....

Oh yeah, just like there is a "reason" why Turks were anti-Armenian/Greek, there is also a "reason" they are anti-Turkish right?

Brainwashed? Look who is talking!

[Mukuch]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

This what I call real funn!! Brainwashid turks !!!! Love them....

[Mukuch]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

OK , lets do it!

I haven’t heard such a news recently, most probably it is not true.

If Eti never heard of it that must be not true! Right?
Eti did you ever heard that first socialist party active in territory of turkey/Ottoman Empire was an Armenian party? But that is true, like a lot of other things you never heard of.

These kind of news are always fabricated about Turkey especially in such countries like Greece, but it seems also in Armenia of course.

Fabrication of news as fabrication of history or in fact any other fabrication is a turkish invention and turks have copyright for that. It is a fact of common knowledge, how come that you who know EVERYTHING never heard of that too?

It is understood that in some countries particularly where a lot of anti-turkist people live, it is such a usual thing making up stories about Turkey. While the real stories are ignored (for instance: “burned Turks by Neo Nazis in Germany) your media frequently tells lies about Turkey to make easy money. (I know that news about Turkey take a lot of attraction in Greece).

Have ever passed your mind why they are so antiturkish?

Burned turks by nazis? LOL
Did they have mistaken them for gypsies or just used as fuel for burning xxxs ?

And probably you'll tell that our media don't want to tell such news, but believe me our media is more reliable. Any time, when I watch an European or US TV broadcasting a news about Turkey, they usually show our women with headscarf, as if they tell a news about Iran not Turkey.

Tell me: how many time your "reliable" media did mention any thing "reliable" about Genocide of Armenians or in fact any other crime committed by turkish nation during the long criminal history of turkey?

Actually publishing any reliable information is a crime in turkey… there is a article 301 for that in Turkish criminal code

[may]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Joseph and Urmistake (btw thanks for the welcome) I want to tell that:

Demographic transition of our country was completed in late 1950s. If our faschists are trying to keep the homogenization of our society, unfortunately it is too late for this. Today, this will not be tolerated in 2009.

I say again I am prone not trusting any foreign press at all. There are too much prejudices about my country in western world, because we are not known enough by them, because the upper class ignores the lower class.

Even if this is true (marking the doors of christians) it means nothing for me, because I know such movements in vain in today’s Istanbul as well.

My nationalist part makes me understand the feelings of our faschists. We suffered a lot because of the christian habitants of Anatolia. Even if you don’t agree with that The Rum (The Anatolian Greek, in fact Eastern Roman) and The Armenian brought physical and mental troubles to the Muslim habitants in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It is not secret, on the contrary very clear that both side (Rums and Armenians) wanted to found their own states in Anatolia and they began to collobrate with Western European countries and Russia vs Ottomans as they were making use of the weakness of the Empire.

So christians of Turkey have to understand that trauma made by their ancestors and should not complain about this small price. Perhaps they weren’t so happy under the rule of Ottomans I can easily throw out that Muslims didn’t cause such a traumatic experience for the christian habitant of Anatolia. (I tell this although I know you don’t agree).

Of course there is a serious reason for the deportation of christian population of Anatolia done between 1915 and 1930.

Eti, your logic results in a cycle that produces nothing but pain for the nations. You can never know who was the first to do an action and who re-acted it. It is just like a kid fight with no actual one to blame, but unfortunately not as naive as fighting over a toy because the pain it brings is irreversible.

I am not a native speaker but at least for me, the word "reason" is more like a word that points out a natural cause that will inevitably result in the same events. If something is wrongly executed, the reason hardly matters. The things happened in past can show us why other events happened, but it should not be mentioned as "justifications" of wrongly done actions. The way to approach it, is to analyze whether another action was possible to solve problem at hand differently. Be sure, similar problems would occur again, then if you know how "not to solve" it, you are one step closer to a better way.

And while speaking about events that are associated with death tolls, one should be more selective about the words, and expressions. "Small price" is such an example.

[Joseph]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

This is such a f_u_c_k_e_d up post I don`t know really where to start.As is your previous post too.But I will just ignore you.

I agree. Where to start on that one?!?!?!?

[Alexandros]

Re: New pogrom against the Armenians and Greeks in Istanbul?

Joseph and Urmistake (btw thanks for the welcome) I want to tell that:

Demographic transition of our country was completed in late 1950s. If our faschists are trying to keep the homogenization of our society, unfortunately it is too late for this. Today, this will not be tolerated in 2009.

I say again I am prone not trusting any foreign press at all. There are too much prejudices about my country in western world, because we are not known enough by them, because the upper class ignores the lower class.

Even if this is true (marking the doors of christians) it means nothing for me, because I know such movements in vain in today’s Istanbul as well.

My nationalist part makes me understand the feelings of our faschists. We suffered a lot because of the christian habitants of Anatolia. Even if you don’t accept that The Rum (The Anatolian Greek, in fact Eastern Roman) and The Armenian brought physical and mental troubles to the Muslim habitants in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It is not secret, on the contrary very clear that both side (Rums and Armenians) wanted to found their own states in Anatolia and they began to collobrate with Western European countries and Russia vs Ottomans as they were making use of the weakness of the Empire.

So christians of Turkey have to understand that trauma made by their ancestors and should not complain about this small price. Perhaps they weren’t so happy under the rule of Ottomans and except but Muslims didn’t cause such a traumatic experience for the christian habitant of Anatolia. (I tell this although I know you don’t agree).

This is such a f_u_c_k_e_d up post I don`t know really where to start.As is your previous post too.But I will just ignore you.