Recognition of Armenian Genocide by the world’s parliaments.

[Mukuch]

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A shot across the bow by the Brits, good news Mukuch..........in other news Turkish Embassador to England has been seen in London frantically packing his bags while mumbling unintelligent words in preperation for deparure to Ankara.

lol

This time he was lucky, but he has bought a ticket London -Ankara without date marked (just in case)

[Merv]

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Nope this is related. The georgians are comparing it to our own genocide and using it against russia thus it is relavent to this forum.

Actually, it's hilarious not only because it's fake (there was no Circassian genocide), but because it's hypocritical. Abkhazia was majority Georgian in 1990 solely because Russia deported the Muslim Abkhaz majority out of it in the 1800s in the same forced expulsion that hit the Circassions. So, according to the Georgian claim that there was genocide by Russia, that would mean the very Georgian state is built on genocide and that Georgia is greedily trying to steal territory that was Gruzinized by genocide.

[Haykakan]

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Dont expect the georgians to make sence. I think the funniest thing ever was when they appointed a defence minister to his post because he was good at playing the game Civilization on the computor. I know its sounds too silly to be true but the man won on the hardest level

[ashot24]

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Armenian Genocide Issue Finally Closed in UK Parliament
22:22 • 31.03.10

The British House of Lords has rejected a proposal by the British-Armenian community to recognize the Armenian Genocide and declare April 24 in Britain as a commemoration day for genocide victims, Lord Kilclooney said in an interview with Turkish news agency Cihan.

According to Turkish media, it was British State Minister Baroness Kinnock who put an end to the discussions over the genocide on March 29.

Saying that the 1915 events were a human tragedy and that they sympathized with the Armenians who suffered losses during those years, the State Minister recalled Britain’s official stance over the Armenian Genocide.

“The British Government cannot make a statement which would halt the Armenia-Turkey normalization process,” said Kinnock, adding that “there are no legal grounds to consider the 1915 events as genocide.”

“For that reason it would not be right for the British Government to recognize those events as genocide,” added the Baroness.

Earlier, on March 29, the House of Lords had held discussions on the Armenian Genocide initiated by Baroness Caroline xxxxs who presented the main facts of the Genocide and the documentary facts in Britain’s possession, calling on the government to join civilized nations around the world and recognize the Armenian Genocide.

“The British Government remembers the sorrowful events in the beginning of the century but cannot take a step that would hinder Armenia-Turkey rapprochement,” Kinnock had said in response to xxxxs’ request.

[hipeter924]

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Dont expect the georgians to make sence. I think the funniest thing ever was when they appointed a defence minister to his post because he was good at playing the game Civilization on the computor. I know its sounds too silly to be true but the man won on the hardest level

Nope, wrong game. It was Age of Empires actually, maybe they thought the Russian's would send Roman catapults.

[Merv]

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Armenian Genocide Issue Finally Closed in UK Parliament
22:22 • 31.03.10

The British House of Lords has rejected a proposal by the British-Armenian community to recognize the Armenian Genocide and declare April 24 in Britain as a commemoration day for genocide victims, Lord Kilclooney said in an interview with Turkish news agency Cihan.

According to Turkish media, it was British State Minister Baroness Kinnock who put an end to the discussions over the genocide on March 29.

Saying that the 1915 events were a human tragedy and that they sympathized with the Armenians who suffered losses during those years, the State Minister recalled Britain’s official stance over the Armenian Genocide.

“The British Government cannot make a statement which would halt the Armenia-Turkey normalization process,” said Kinnock, adding that “there are no legal grounds to consider the 1915 events as genocide.”

“For that reason it would not be right for the British Government to recognize those events as genocide,” added the Baroness.

Earlier, on March 29, the House of Lords had held discussions on the Armenian Genocide initiated by Baroness Caroline xxxxs who presented the main facts of the Genocide and the documentary facts in Britain’s possession, calling on the government to join civilized nations around the world and recognize the Armenian Genocide.

“The British Government remembers the sorrowful events in the beginning of the century but cannot take a step that would hinder Armenia-Turkey rapprochement,” Kinnock had said in response to xxxxs’ request.

The British have been friends of the Turks because of fears of Russia for ever so long. Disraeli did nothing when the Bulgarian massacres in the 1870s were scandalizing the rest of Europe. It is truly scandalous, but hardly surprising, how many Western Europeans (particularly British but also French and Germans) have for decades and centuries knowingly permitted Turks to get away with everything solely because of the fear of Russia. From the Armenian genocide and Hamidian massacres, to the Pontic Greek genocide and Istanbul Pogrom, to the Massacre of Chios and the Adana Massacre and Cyprus, to the Bulgarian atrocities and the Assyrian genocide, etc. A 2-century litany of horrors that Western Europeans have turned a blind eye towards simply out of political expedience.

[Haykakan]

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The British have been friends of the Turks because of fears of Russia for ever so long. Disraeli did nothing when the Bulgarian massacres in the 1870s were scandalizing the rest of Europe. It is truly scandalous, but hardly surprising, how tormany Western Europeans (particularly British but also French and Germans) have for decades and centuries knowingly permitted Turks to get away with everything solely because of the fear of Russia. From the Armenian genocide and Hamidian massacres, to the Pontic Greek genocide and Istanbul Pogrom, to the Massacre of Chios and the Adana Massacre and Cyprus, to the Bulgarian atrocities and the Assyrian genocide, etc. A 2-century litany of horrors that Western Europeans have turned a blind eye towards simply out of political expedience.

Sooner or later those horrors will be on their doorsteps when the barberic turck turns against the west again.

[retro]

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It is truly scandalous, but hardly surprising, how many Western Europeans (particularly British but also French and Germans) have for decades and centuries knowingly permitted Turks to get away with everything solely because of the fear of Russia.

Anglo-Turko relations are far stronger than many people realise and the UK invests a lot of money in Turkic countries. What is more the British regime are not in a good position politically just before a general election and no doubt this Armenian Genocide proposal was tabled, now in order to kill it. Since the Turks have made it quite clear that aren't not going to except preconditions to any reconciliation process.

Europe will do what it does best, namely sit on the fence and do nothing. As it is not in Europe's intrests to become embroiled in highly contentious, political spats with it's neighbours. Even if they are a bunch of two faced, lying hypocrites. However they are far more likely to recognize the Armenian Genocide than the British.

As thinks stand, the Turk is maintaining that he is being victimized and his Sunni Islamist cronies are furious with Russia. However as far as I can see, they aren't excactly enamored with the Turks either. Since the ethno-religious, mass murder of Christian Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians is hardly something that they can (at least overly) support.

[ashot24]

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I don't think the issue goes as the Westerners are afraid of Russia so they allow Turkey to get away with their crimes unpunished, I believe it's because they know how barbaric Turkey can be, it is clearly visible that many countries are afraid of Turkey more than they've ever been of any USSR. Differently from Russia, the Turks are barbarians who will not hesitate from committing a crime because they know nobody will ever punish them, they can do whatever they want without consequences.

We knew for decades that if the Russians attack, the US and the Westerners will "protect us", but if the Turks attack? Having that in mind, it's no surprise that so many countries are afraid of passing the Genocide resolutions not because it would "damage our bilateral relationships" or the new trend of it would "damage the Armenian-Turkey process", but because it would anger Turkey and the last thing they want is an angry Turkey.

In other words, the Westerners are a bunch of p*ssies.

[retro]

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Ashot

If anyone is afraid and insecure it's the Turks. None of these various Armenian genocide resolutions would be necessary. If the Turks for once did the right thing and came clean, in regards to the Turkish states involvement in past events. Rather than constantly seeking to suppress and evade it's responsibilities.