Armenians - Turks - the provocation starts in Europa

[Anonymouse]

Oh please... you make them sound like Vikings or something. They have no military or warfare skill, and can only succeed in such endeavours if they are numerically superior. On even terms they cannot win, never have and never will.


It is possible Hitler's Grandmother(I think...) was raped(or it was consentual... whatever, not the point) by one of them while she worked as a servant at one of their mansions. So he could have been 1/4 Jewish, which may explain why he considered 1/4 Jews "ok". But it really doesn't matter. Whether he had Jewish blood or not, he was manipulated by Jews and the fact remains Hitler was the best thing that happened for the Jewish people. Up until Hitler they were hated, despised and persecuted for many, many reasons. Because of Hitler they got Israel, and because of Hitler they now basically have the right to act without impunity, as a whole, and can play the sympathy or "Holocaust" card whenever and however they wish. And so on and so on and so on...

Yes she was a servant for one of the Rothschilds, and boy should you read up on those Rothschilds and how they have funded all major wars in the recent centuries and their obsession with bloodlines. Clearly genius.

[Anonymouse]

I still crack up when I hear people getting mad at Jews for killing Jesus. Apparently they've forgotten that Jesus's whole purpose for coming to Earth in the first place was to, in fact, die. The whole point of his existence was to attone for our sins by dying. Everyone always talks about "God's plan"... well, it was God's plan for him to come down here to be killed so our sins could be washed away.. the Jews were simply carrying out GOD'S plan.. after all he said "forgive them, for they know not what they do"... wow, forgive them , another thing all these Jew-haters seem to forget. To me it just seems so silly to hate the Jews for basically CREATING our entire belief structure which is based on atonement and forgiveness. Dumb asses.

"Jews" is a modern term. "Jews" are not and were not Hebrews. The Pharisees were not Jews and did not practice Judaism. For better reference on this I suggest "Facts are Facts" by Benjamin Freedman. You can google this and find many white nationalist websites sporting it, as well as some others.

[Tres Bien]

Bravo Anaynoymous!!!!!

[IAmMadAtAC]

"Jews" is a modern term. "Jews" are not and were not Hebrews. The Pharisees were not Jews and did not practice Judaism. For better reference on this I suggest "Facts are Facts" by Benjamin Freedman. You can google this and find many white nationalist websites sporting it, as well as some others.

I read part of that and it was calling the religion at the time as Pharisaism- not Judaism. Jesus was sentenced to death by the Pharisees, which according to the site is different than Jews. Well in that case it was the Pharisees and not the Jews who were scheming all along to kill Jesus, and therefor the claims here of "the Jews killed Jesus" would be wrong. Also regardless of what sect he might have been, he was still ethnically Hebrew, so anyone's wish that he looked like some kind of Western European or Nordic guy or whatnot are wrong. He shares ethnicity with the Jews no matter what sect that article claimed he might have been. Saying "the Jews killed my Lord" or whatever is just so totally obnoxious. If he hadn't been killed, he wouldn't have fulfilled his mission that those very Christians believe, and Jesus being killed is the central part of Christianity. Without the Jews doing it people wouldn't have been saved. Do you think Christianity would have the same potency if Jesus lived to 90 and died of old age at home?! Christianity would have definitely been no more than a small sect that never got off the ground without his dramatic death, like so many others of the first century. If you love the Christian religion so much, then you should thank the Jews or whoever did it for killing him, and therefor allowing him to complete his mission.
The anti-Jewishness that runs through the Armenian community is really disturbing though. I am not big Jew supporter or anything, I think their overall (not complete, some don't) support for the Turks over Armenians on the genocide is dispicable, though I do understand that there are some geopolitics involved and don't blame some of them completely. There is such blind hate for everything they do though I find in many Armenians, and its really disturbing.

[Tres Bien]

First off you say it wasnt jews that killed him , then you say thank jews for killing jesus? NO one likes greedy people, or people who occupies another country and builds illegal settlements, and bulldozes your house...be it jews/israelis, or americans.


NO matter what, it makes no differents who killed him, that is not what is important in the christian religion.
The most important thing to remember is that Christianity is a religion and an ideology. jesus was the man that preeched it. Claiming jesus to be jewish, is just another way of flattering themselves- the jews. And its absurd because jesus was actually against the unjustfulness within the country in wich he lived in wich was runned by the jews(palestine,Israel?!=)


Jews killed jesus, is also another way of making a victim of the jews and justiyfing that they are right to occupy Palestine.

[Anonymouse]

I read part of that and it was calling the religion at the time as Pharisaism- not Judaism. Jesus was sentenced to death by the Pharisees, which according to the site is different than Jews. Well in that case it was the Pharisees and not the Jews who were scheming all along to kill Jesus, and therefor the claims here of "the Jews killed Jesus" would be wrong. Also regardless of what sect he might have been, he was still ethnically Hebrew, so anyone's wish that he looked like some kind of Western European or Nordic guy or whatnot are wrong. He shares ethnicity with the Jews no matter what sect that article claimed he might have been. Saying "the Jews killed my Lord" or whatever is just so totally obnoxious. If he hadn't been killed, he wouldn't have fulfilled his mission that those very Christians believe, and Jesus being killed is the central part of Christianity. Without the Jews doing it people wouldn't have been saved. Do you think Christianity would have the same potency if Jesus lived to 90 and died of old age at home?! Christianity would have definitely been no more than a small sect that never got off the ground without his dramatic death, like so many others of the first century. If you love the Christian religion so much, then you should thank the Jews or whoever did it for killing him, and therefor allowing him to complete his mission.
The anti-Jewishness that runs through the Armenian community is really disturbing though. I am not big Jew supporter or anything, I think their overall (not complete, some don't) support for the Turks over Armenians on the genocide is dispicable, though I do understand that there are some geopolitics involved and don't blame some of them completely. There is such blind hate for everything they do though I find in many Armenians, and its really disturbing.

Yes, Jesus was ethnically Hebrew or so the pontificating goes. Furthermore, the earliest model of Jesus was based on the Sun God Apollo which explains his "Nordic" look. But bear in mind that this wasn't an attempt to re-create Jesus as he was, or anything else for that matter. Cultures put their stamp on things and what cultures produce are a reflection of that people hence why Jesus as assumed a Nordic look because of Christianity being a cultural mark among the Europeans.

As far as Jews' siding with Turks regarding the Armenian genocide. Well it serves two purposes. One, it's political. Two, it reaffirms the group consciousness of Jews and their Holocaust. You should read Kevin MacDonalds "Culture of Critique".

[Thai-Samurai]

I still crack up when I hear people getting mad at Jews for killing Jesus. Apparently they've forgotten that Jesus's whole purpose for coming to Earth in the first place was to, in fact, die. The whole point of his existence was to attone for our sins by dying. Everyone always talks about "God's plan"... well, it was God's plan for him to come down here to be killed so our sins could be washed away.. the Jews were simply carrying out GOD'S plan.. after all he said "forgive them, for they know not what they do"... wow, forgive them , another thing all these Jew-haters seem to forget. To me it just seems so silly to hate the Jews for basically CREATING our entire belief structure which is based on atonement and forgiveness. Dumb asses.

That's true, so then "Jews" (Since Anon argued calling them that a little later) who killed Jesus, were meant to do it. And if that was meant to happen it should make people wonder what other things are meant to happen? What else is in God's plan? Why won't he tell me?

[HyeJinx1984]

That's true, so then "Jews" (Since Anon argued calling them that a little later) who killed Jesus, were meant to do it. And if that was meant to happen it should make people wonder what other things are meant to happen? What else is in God's plan? Why won't he tell me?

Cause you haven't been paying your 10%

[IAmMadAtAC]

The most important thing to remember is that Christianity is a religion and an ideology. jesus was the man that preeched it. Claiming jesus to be jewish, is just another way of flattering themselves- the jews.

Oh man, you clearly know little to nothing about Jesus and the early history of the church. It is quite likely that Jesus hadn't even meant for his teachings to become centered around a whole religion. He went aroundw ith followers and told parables, said wise things, etc. Meanwhile he attempted Temple, read the Torah, and celebrated Passover (all this comes from the Gospels.) There is no one person more responsible for Christianity than......... St. Paul. Don't believe me? I have had many religion courses and such and it is totally obvious that the majority of what Christians follow (in the structure of the religion and a lot of the beliefs it follows) did not come from Jesus but St. Paul instead! I am totally serious, do some research if you don't believe me. It's St. Paul who laid the basis for the mass proliferation of the church, he led the way for it to become a world religion instead of just a different way of following Judaism as Jesus (and then carried on by St. Peter). Jesus would have never identified himself as "Christian"- there was no such thing throughout his life.

[XxgoeyxX]

Oh man, you clearly know little to nothing about Jesus and the early history of the church. It is quite likely that Jesus hadn't even meant for his teachings to become centered around a whole religion. He went aroundw ith followers and told parables, said wise things, etc. Meanwhile he attempted Temple, read the Torah, and celebrated Passover (all this comes from the Gospels.) There is no one person more responsible for Christianity than......... St. Paul. Don't believe me? I have had many religion courses and such and it is totally obvious that the majority of what Christians follow (in the structure of the religion and a lot of the beliefs it follows) did not come from Jesus but St. Paul instead! I am totally serious, do some research if you don't believe me. It's St. Paul who laid the basis for the mass proliferation of the church, he led the way for it to become a world religion instead of just a different way of following Judaism as Jesus (and then carried on by St. Peter). Jesus would have never identified himself as "Christian"- there was no such thing throughout his life.

You are correct my dear. I was actually going to respond to that, but you beat me to it. If you read the Gospels and practice Christianity then it is indeed Pauline.


Oh, I must add one more thing about St. Paul. Legend has Paul preaching the gospel as far away as Spain, Gaul, and even Britain. A superficial reading might lead to the conclusion that Paul was sort of apostolic "Lone Ranger" who single-handedly spread Christianity throughout the Roman world. Paul himself never made such a claim. but if you read his letter, it makes it quite clear that he was only one among many early Christian missionaries.